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iPhone 3G Water Indicator

Has anyone else been told by apple that the H2O indicator shows the phone has been wet when they have not ever gotten it wet? It seems to me that I may have a faulty indicator. Or possibly it got wet while they had it. Any way they voided my warranty and apple care plan because they say I did something I didn't do. Seems to me they sold me a defective device and now thy won't stand behind it.

MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.5.5), iPhone 3G

Posted on Oct 22, 2008 9:19 AM

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Oct 22, 2008 9:33 AM in response to Lost_Customer

Sad to say you have no way to prove you didn't get it wet or use it in an enviroment (humid, etc) that was outside to operating range.

This is true for just about any phone. Had buddy who sweats a lot. His RAZR had the indicator inside the battery compartment (most do) and due to keeping in his jeans and getting ... ah, moist I guess is the best word for it ... his indicator showed it had gotten wet. Though he never needed to have work done to it as it always worked, the fact it flipped to red just shows it is sensitive.

Sorry, but little you can do about it.

Oct 22, 2008 11:12 AM in response to Lost_Customer

I've seen several threads that reference this issue of the water sensors being tripped while the owner indicates that the phone has not been exposed to moisture.

Is this a very big problem? Are there specific tips to avoid this (other than the obvious keeping it out of water)? I'm long past worrying about it on my relatively new 3G phone since I dropped it into water about a week after purchasing it. Happily my phone is functioning just fine.

But in the next couple of months my husband will probably get his iPhone and I have wondered how big a problem this is and what steps to avoid it.

If the sensors are really being tripped without moisture and voiding people's warrantly, that is a bigger issue for customers.

Oct 22, 2008 1:10 PM in response to Lost_Customer

The litmus paper used in Liquid Damage Indicators (LDIs) is quite sensitive. As an earlier poster pointed out, using the iPhone in a humid environment can cause the LDI to show damage. Condensation, which can occur when you go from one temperature extreme to another, can also cause it to show damage. With liquid and electronics, you can never really predict what will cause the device to stop working. I've seen cell phones go through the washer and dryer and work fine. I've seen people leave them in a bag with a cold bottle of water and get some condensation on the phone and it never works again. So, yes, the LDI is sensative.

Oct 22, 2008 3:03 PM in response to Lost_Customer

I guess my concern is that since the indicator is hidden in the headphone port and customers are not told it is there or what it means to them. How do they protect themselves from buying a phone that has already had the indicator tripped. I know that from now on I will be asking where the indicator is and checking it before I leave the store with a phone. After all I'm sure there is any humidity in the shipping containers at the docks in San Diego and San Francisco where these thing sit waiting to be cleared by customs.

Oct 22, 2008 3:41 PM in response to IdrisSeabright

Well, I guess I'm lucky that I have never had any issues related to water damage or false indicators... but it seems to me that, if the sensor can be tripped from safely storing the phone close to a sealed water bottle, then the sensor is not a valid reason to void the warranty, especially if there is no other evidence that the issue is something that would likely be caused by water.

Oct 22, 2008 7:07 PM in response to Dont-Use-This-Forum

Jacob Spindel (Wookie) wrote:
safely storing the phone close to a sealed water bottle,


No, you actually can't safely store a piece of electronics next to a sealed, cold bottle of liquid. Condensation can damage the phone, iPhone, iPod. Also, even sealed bottles have been known to become unsealed....

I'm a big fan of ziploc bags, myself.

Oct 22, 2008 7:16 PM in response to Lost_Customer

I've had my 3G iPhone for 3 weeks now. I had the first generation iPhone that was truly water damage so I bought a new one. Since day one the phone has been very sluggish. It took me a few hours to get it to take my backup of my original phone. Today I went in for an appointment with a mac "Genius" to be told it had water damage. There is no way I ever go this close to any water. He should me the sensor on the bottom of the phone that is clearly exposed to the elements. This is just a way for Apple to get out of any warranty responsibility. They may as well just put the sensor on the screen. I love Apple products, I have a iMac and have had a few iPods. I will never give Apple one more penny due to this unethical practice.

Oct 23, 2008 3:59 PM in response to Lost_Customer

Hey, it can't hurt.

I've just checked mine, and luckily its fine, but I'm nervous because it can get pretty humid here in the summer. This thread made me realize how odd of a practice it is to have the LDI exposed to air on a regular basis. For every other product I've bought with an LDI (mostly mobile phones) the indicator lays against a battery 99% of the time. Honestly, I don't think apple did this on purpose, but simply because it would be come tedious for the iPhone Geniuses to have to remove the back plate of every iPhone the inspect. I wouldn't be surprised, however, if they knew of the issue and were using it to their advantage. I love apple products, but have little faith in apple support.

Oct 23, 2008 7:25 PM in response to DaKyng105

I've been pleased with my Apple products (with some exceptions), but I've been very happy with Apple's support, they have gone way beyond what was required on more than one occasion. And given the various polls that are done on support (including PC Magazine) you are an exception to the rule in having faith in Apple support.

Oct 27, 2008 4:08 PM in response to Lost_Customer

Well the only solution that Apple has to fixing a phone when the H2O indicator is tripped is to claim it on your credit card's purchase protection plan. Make sure you check this indicator before purchasing any phone. If you don't know where it is ASK. BTW... E-mailing Steve will get someone's attention but maybe not the results you desire.

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