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Setting margins in Pages [Page Layout view]

I am trying to set up an A5 book. The page area is no problem in Page Setup. I have facing pages on and set the margins as
Inside 1.8cm
Outside 3cm
Top 1.8cm
Bottom 2cm.

What I have (with headers and footers off, as I am placing scans to print a facsimile of an old book) seems to be a greyed out area of roughly
Inside 0.75cm
Outside 0.7cm
Top 0.75cm
Bottom 1.5cm.

I can't see why this should be - it makes no sense - and is of no use to me either!

Incidentally, is there any way of saying you want, say, a 96 pp document to start with?

Cheers, Colin

iMac Core 2 Extreme 2.8GHz, 3Gb, 24"; iBook G4, 1.33Ghz, 512Mb RAM, Mac OS X (10.5.5), Palm with TomTom

Posted on Nov 6, 2008 9:28 AM

41 replies

Nov 7, 2008 3:11 PM in response to Colin Cohen

I love the early Hitchcock (B&W) movies, a shame they no longer show them on TV. I'd love to get them as good quality digital versions to play on my Macs.

I went to your webpage but can see no way of linking to you directly.

I have made up a template according to your specs and can add footer etc to make up a usable document.

Colin Cohen Author

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Nov 8, 2008 1:43 AM in response to PeterBreis0807

Hi, Peter, do you guys down under never go to bed?

I am in no way a film buff, but I was blown away by this one, it is an age time since I have been kept in suspense for so long. The good news is that it was shown from DVD, not 35mm!

I forgot that incipient web page was in my profile - I did it an age ago using Firefox I think. I tried to update it recently in Safari and all went well until the Save when Google decided it wouldn't play and I moved on to more important things...

The template is an act of great generosity - shall I shall email you direct?

Cheers,

Colin

Message was edited by: Colin Cohen - oops - I assumed your profile would give some contact detail - as in Yahoo groups - how do we do this? C

Nov 8, 2008 2:13 AM in response to KOENIG Yvan

As I never encounter this formula "96 pp", I assumed that you wanted to default at 96% scaling. What means 96 pp? Is it 96 Point Per Inch ?

It comes up from time to time. It is among the conventions for constructing abbreviations in Latin, to indicate plural you double the initial letter. See below. PPI, DPI and LPI are another breed of beast altogether, they belong in the world of picture element patterns and not in the world of pens, parchments and papers where pp is from.

The language of printing and publishing is old, for instance, the names for the main imposition methods are mediæval (folio for folding once to produce two sheets, quarto for folding to produce four sheets, octavo for folding to produce eight sheets, and duodecissimo for folding to produce twelve sheets).

/hh

Reference:

"In some languages, the convention of doubling the letters in the initialism is used to indicate plural words: for example, the Spanish EE.UU., for Estados Unidos (United States). This convention is followed for a limited number of English abbreviations, such as pp. for pages (although this is actually derived from the Latin abbreviation for paginae)."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acronymand_initialism#Representing_plurals_andpossessives

Colin Cohen Author

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Nov 8, 2008 2:37 AM in response to PeterBreis0807

Hi again,

When you are ready I could set up an account at www.guerrillamail.com - after which we can use more normal means to communicate...

Cheers, Colin

Nov 8, 2008 4:14 AM in response to Colin Cohen

Colin,

If you are there, let me know promptly and I will reveal my email to you.

Colin Cohen Author

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Nov 8, 2008 4:20 AM in response to PeterBreis0807

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Message was edited by: Colin Cohen

Nov 8, 2008 4:19 AM in response to Colin Cohen

OK Click on my name, you should be able to see my email. 🙂

Colin Cohen Author

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Nov 8, 2008 5:42 AM in response to PeterBreis0807

I'd just like to thank Peter for emailing me a template that will do the business, using boxes in place of the margins being set correctly.

However, I remain mystified as to why I can't effect any margin changes in Pages any more...

Cheers, Colin

KOENIG Yvan

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Nov 8, 2008 9:22 AM in response to Colin Cohen

As I am definitely pig-headed, I borrowed a printer allowing the use of A5 format.

I was able to get rid of margins and do exactly what I wanted to do with them.

Tests made under 10.4.11.

Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE samedi 8 novembre 2008 18:22:36)

Colin Cohen Author

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Nov 8, 2008 10:30 AM in response to KOENIG Yvan

Thanks Yvan, but that can't be my problem as I could not change the margins in any format.

Peter has sent me a working template using frames. Before I can use them I have to finish retouching almost letter by letter scans of 96 text pages...

Cheers, Colin

KOENIG Yvan

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Nov 9, 2008 1:01 PM in response to Colin Cohen

Colin Cohen wrote:
Incidentally, is there any way of saying you want, say, a 96 pp document to start with?

Now that I know what means 96pp, I may respond: no.

If your document is a Word processing one, you will have to insert 95 page breaks.
If your document is a layout one you will have to insert 95 supplementary pages (assuming that you start from the blank template)

Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE dimanche 9 novembre 2008 22:01:26)

Setting margins in Pages [Page Layout view]