109°C (228°F) CPU temperature, fans idle @ 2k rpm!!!!!! I'M SO MAD

this is a issue since the new MBPs were released. as soon as the CPU temp reaches ~55°C the fans start slowly from 2000 to 6200rpm if the CPU is on maximum usage. this is absolutely ok. BUT, if you put your MBP to sleep, log out or change the GPU, something happens to the fan control! the next time you maxing out your CPU power, the CPU heats up to 109°C and the fans keep running at 2000rpm User uploaded file if you reset your smc everything is fine until you put your MBP to sleep (...) again. seriously, what is this apple? this is so so unbelievably pathetic!
the newest "placebo smc update" didn't change anything! it changed not even one thing what it promised, LOL! stop messing around apple and do* something!


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temperature issue
15% more cpu usage if you play music over the integrated speakers
display flickering with battery power, between 1-4 brightness
trackpad which won't recognize your finger at the border
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MacBook Pro 15" (late 08), Mac OS X (10.5.5), 2.8GHz C2D / 4GB RAM

Posted on Dec 11, 2008 8:38 PM

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Feb 4, 2009 3:23 PM in response to Steven Adamson1

A few of us documented these steps in the 'screen turns black when gaming' thread, but here's what you can do. Bear in mind that symptoms my not occur immediately, but they have on every machine I've tested (around 30).

1. You will need software to monitor the cpu temp - I suggest the 'Istat' widget : http://www.islayer.com/apps/istatpro/
2 You also need a tool to make the Mac push it's cpu - easiest way is to run CPUTest from: http://www.soft32.com/download_199513.html
3 Ensure your MBP is sleeping, and then wake it up.
4. Run the cpu test whilst monitoring the cpu temp in Istat. I'd recommend the 'big' test, 10 repetitions, with 2 instances running.
5. You will find that the temperature rises, but the fans stay at around 2000 rpm, even when the cpu crosses the 100 degree mark.
6. Stop the test, turn off the computer and reset the SMC (battery out, power button for 10 secs)
7. Turn on the computer and run the cpu test again.
8. Note that the fans now spin up when the cpu goes over 80-85 degrees - normal behaviour.
9. The problem will re-occur after the machine has slept and the whole process of resetting the SMC will need to be completed again.

That's it - let us know your findings. Just don't let your cpu stay hot for too long....

Feb 4, 2009 4:14 PM in response to preller

Based on additional communication I've had with Apple, I can say that Apple is fully aware of the behavior I described in previous posts. That fan control behavior is considered normal at this time.

My opinion is that a future update, probably an SMC firmware update, will change that behavior.

As for why an SMC reset changes the behavior, I do have a guess. If the fan is controlled by a standard PID (or PI) control algorithm, the calculation is affected by historical as well as current temperature readings. Resetting the SMC erases the history. The control signal to the fans is then different until historical data builds up again. Again, this is speculation.

By the way, I retested with the latest version (4.6) of Hardware Monitor and there is no difference in the overall results.

This is not to say that everyone posting here is in the same situation. A previous poster described his machine shutting down consistently at 90 deg-C. That sounds like a hardware problem.

Feb 4, 2009 10:23 PM in response to david waddington

Firstly, I see that the SMC reset for this computer doesn't entail taking out the battery but doing the smc reset as is done with the Macbook Air. Am I wrong about that?
Secondly, is there anything more simple I can do, like watching a video for a long time or other activities that will test whether the fans will kick in at a certain point? As of now I have been a light user and I have seen the CPU go to about 70C watching videos on you tube.
I am not a heavy user, but would like to know if I have a hardware problem because I have only had the computer for 2 weeks.
Also, has anyone figured out how to get rid of the wave effect when using the sidebar to scroll pages in Safari or elsewhere?
Other than this, so far I love the computer.

Feb 5, 2009 7:32 AM in response to preller

Same Problem here.

I have installed bootcamp. i played Crysis for over 5 hours. After that i went on OS X. For 2 hours just surfing the net.I opened handbrake and the macbook RUNS at 89 degrees Celsius. and the fans i could not hear them. maybe they are on 2000rpm. Thank god i realise it soon, and stop handbrake encoding.

After that i came here and read that others have the same problem. so i reset the SMC. after resseting SMC . the 1 time i opened handbrake the fans start rolling at 67 Celsius .I stopped the encoding and start it again after 5 minutes. AGAIN the macbook reach 89 degrees without the fans rolling from over 2000rpm.

Please apple fix it. We don't want our MBPs to be burned 😟 😟 Please realise this problem and give us a fix.

Feb 5, 2009 8:47 AM in response to preller

Firstly, I see that the SMC reset for this computer doesn't entail taking out the battery but doing the smc reset as is done with the Macbook Air. Am I wrong about that?
When you say that the computer was running at 89C, was that with the dedicated 9600 chip or the 9400 integrated?
Secondly, is there anything more simple I can do, like watching a video for a long time or other activities that will test whether the fans will kick in at a certain point? As of now I have been a light user and I have seen the CPU go to about 70C watching videos on you tube.
I am not a heavy user, but would like to know if I have a hardware problem because I have only had the computer for 2 weeks.
Also, has anyone figured out how to get rid of the wave effect when using the sidebar to scroll pages in Safari or elsewhere?
Other than this, so far I love the computer.

Feb 8, 2009 2:37 PM in response to preller

hi david waddington

I really dont know to much about restarting the MBR (i believe thats what u call it) but ever since i deleted my OS and reinstall the OS and apps everything has been working GREAT. the temp from my MAC is at 88 degrees and sometimes 92. i sometime see it go higher then that when i deleted some files that are about a gig or less (depends how much the files are). either way, the temp is between 88 to 92 degrees.

from what i believe, i believe that when first buying the mac u should delete the OS and reinstall it. thats what i usually do when i worked in the IT department.

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