How much is too much? (Battery Cycles)

I've had my macbook base model for 1 year and 4 months. According to iStat my batteries gone through 328 cycles! That sounds like a lot for such a short period of time. So how much is too much as far as cycles go?

You should probably know that I rarely shut down my computer. I always let it sleep. Is that a bad thing? What else can I do to preserve battery life and keep my cycle count low?

Posted on Dec 12, 2008 12:07 AM

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Dec 12, 2008 9:57 AM in response to SilverBlue

Hi SilverBlue: The cycle count does seem high. I have had my MacBook Pro for about 2 and a half years with about 150 cycles. I guess best advice to keep the cycle count low would be to use the computer on AC power whenever possible. 300 seems to be about the life span of these batteries, but check your info to see what the maximum capacity is for your battery.

Good Luck
Stedman

Dec 16, 2008 10:36 PM in response to SilverBlue

SilverBlue wrote:
I've had my macbook base model for 1 year and 4 months. According to iStat my batteries gone through 328 cycles! That sounds like a lot for such a short period of time. So how much is too much as far as cycles go?

You should probably know that I rarely shut down my computer. I always let it sleep. Is that a bad thing? What else can I do to preserve battery life and keep my cycle count low?


Remember, a cycle means a complete drain to about 20% or lower and charge back up to 100%. That means you've charged it quite a bit. My old Mac (before the defective replacement) logged about 120 cycles in a year. I plug it in if the battery is over 98% charged if available and only charge when I reach 15%.

For having 328 cycles, you must have been running your battery once it reaches 100% and rarely running off AC power otherwise. This could be a bad thing since it looks like you're causing more wear and tear to your battery.

You should check the system profile for your mAH when your battery is full and compare it to the Apple specifications to see if u're losing capacity.

deltatux

Dec 21, 2008 1:40 PM in response to Carlouk

The update is dated April 2007 so should not be needed on new Al MacBooks.

I've had mine since about Oct 28 or so and am at 3 cycles according to iStat.

Likely about right: I keep it plugged in unless away from home. But it does travel with me (e.g., just returned from a 7 day cruise). Lowest charge was about 75% on one occasion.

Phil

Dec 27, 2008 12:50 PM in response to deltatux

Hi.
I've had my macbook for only a week, and drained it only thrice. But according to iStat and Coconut Battery (yes, i got both just to make sure), my battery has gone through 6 cycles already! The lowest percentage I ever let my macbook run on is 65%. And as I understand it, a cycle is only counted if you charge a battery with 20% or else left on it. And coconut battery has also displayed that my macbook is 3 weeks old! This is really alarming since it's my first mac and I want to get the most out of it. Can anyone help me sort this out? Thanks a lot!

I've included my batt stat in the hopes that it can help:
Battery Information:

Model Information:
Serial Number: SMP-bq20z951-3971-20ec
Manufacturer: SMP
Device name: bq20z951
Pack Lot Code: 0000
PCB Lot Code: 0000
Firmware Version: 002a
Hardware Revision: 000a
Cell Revision: 0100
Charge Information:
Charge remaining (mAh): 3674
Fully charged: No
Charging: Yes
Full charge capacity (mAh): 4269
Health Information:
Cycle count: 6
Condition: Good
Battery Installed: Yes
Amperage (mA): 399
Voltage (mV): 12284




PS: I know that this is not the right venue for it, but someone might be able to address the problem of a very short battery life my laptop has. It only runs for about 2.5 hours, and I lose about 1-2% of batt life even when it is asleep.

Dec 30, 2008 11:17 PM in response to deltatux

"you must have been running your battery once it reaches 100% and rarely running off AC power otherwise." That is EXACTLY what I used to do until I became aware of this problem.

"You should check the system profile for your mAH when your battery is full and compare it to the Apple specifications to see if u're losing capacity." I'm a novice computer user so I don't understand what you mean by that. I'll need a step-by-step tutorial lol.

Dec 31, 2008 11:20 AM in response to Carlouk

I get what you mean but I don't think it's right to have to buy a new battery so soon when I've accumulated 334 cycles in less than 1.5 years. But I've taken a look at the system profile and saw these stats:

Battery Information:

Battery Installed: Yes
First low level warning: No
Full Charge Capacity (mAh): 5153
Remaining Capacity (mAh): 166
Amperage (mA): 2686
Voltage (mV): 11587
Cycle Count: 334

5153 mAh is not bad at all for 300+ cycles. Apple says the battery should be at 80% after 300 cycles, which would indicate that the battery should be at around 4500 mAh. So I guess I'm happy with what I've got. If one of you experts sees a problem with the numbers I've given you, please let me know asap. Thanks!

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