Set .doc as Default File Type

btw Apple does not have an escape clause covering the bad PDFX-3 files Pages produces, and it took a lot of persistence to get final acknowledgement of the problem here in these forums.

Best dot the i's and cross the t's here. The defaults in the PDF/X-3 template are not self-consistent and configuring a custom filter is confusing and complex. Of the other concerns posted, some I would agree with and others I would not agree with. PDF/X3 produced by Mac OS X 10.4 passes preflight in Acrobat Professional 6, so in that sense it works and has worked for some time.

/hh

I'm tired too.

I explained that, as the sender (the OP) was impolite enough to send a document without checking that the recipient was owning the correct tool, it was its duty to tell him that he may use the trial version.

This is why I explained that this OP was supposed to be aware of the power of the trial version.

When I receive a document in a Microsoft format, I trash it then I inform the sender that its document is trashed and that he is urged to send a document in a format which I may read.

I did that for very important documents like those related to an heritage.

It's not the recipient which must adapt its material to the sender but the reverse.

If you are unable to read my explanations it's not my fault !

Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE lundi 22 juin 2009 20:10:21)

PeterBreis0807 wrote:

I have personally witnessed what he has witnessed over several different stores, many times.

Which speaks louder? The direct face to face communication with Apple staff, along with the advertising and marketing, or a deeply buried escape clause *only visible if you know where to look* in the software after you have committed to it?

An escape clause which would very likely be pronounced invalid under the laws of my and many other countries.

Who wrote about a "deeply burried escape clause" ?

I wrote about the description of the features of the trial version which appears at the very beginning of the License which is displayed at the very beginning of the install / update process.

I'm also waiting about a response to my question:

"where have I wrote about a ReadMe".

You are nervous and you are unable to get out of the black hole which you opened.

Upon the technical features of the PDF generated by Apple, even if I often disagree with Henrik, I know that he is more aware than me of this kind of question. So, I smiled when I saw its response about Apple generated PDFX.

Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE lundi 22 juin 2009 20:21:53)

I wrote both about the "deeply buried escape clause" and the ReadMe, but then you had read the ReadMe file hadn't you?

The only "black hole" is the one you are at the bottom of and keep shouting your repetitious excuses from.

Peter

Henrik,

It fails the current Acrobat tests and as it produces both 72dpi graphics, +*including converting certain text to crude bitmaps,*+ and overinking it objectively fails any commercial printer's requirements.

Peter

wbruce2 ,

Thanks for the link!

I've just been spent a good amount of time being frustrated by this very problem before I discovered this thread. I don't want/need .doc as a default file type, but *if I start a new pages document and save it as .doc type, the next time I hit command S, it should just save it i.e. save it again in .doc format.* Anything else is silly.

irreverent wrote:
wbruce2 ,

Thanks for the link!

I've just been spent a good amount of time being frustrated by this very problem before I discovered this thread. I don't want/need .doc as a default file type, but *if I start a new pages document and save it as .doc type, the next time I hit command S, it should just save it i.e. save it again in .doc format.* Anything else is silly.

Only your advice.
And posting it is unefficient.

Running the script posted in my message

Re: Set .doc as Default File Type
Posted: 16 avr. 2009 21:25 in response to: KOENIG Yvan

gives the required feature

Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE mardi 23 juin 2009 12:34:23)

Yvan

After reading your response to my post, as well as your back and forth battle with PeterBreis0807, all I can say is that you are snobby and rude.

Before I posted my comments, I read the entire thread, including wbruce2's April 14 post in which he provided a link to a site discussing how to hack into Pages in order to program a default save for Word docs. I also noted your post of April 16, basically provding the same hacking procedure.

The point of my post was that (1) Apple Store employees (whom I had no reason to distrust after I explained my personal word processing requirements) led me to believe Pages was a substitute for MS Word, and (2) Apple, knowing the dominance of MS Word and the need of the general public to work in such a Word-dominated world, could have easily provided a means to default save such documents in Pages. I had no desire to implement your hack or PeterBreis0807's. Such a hack should not be necessary. As I stated in my post, my solution was simply to buy Office 2008 for Mac.

I suggest you change your attitude and take a more civil (and humble) tone when responding in this forum.

torinogiorgio

torinogiorgio wrote:

The point of my post was that (1) Apple Store employees (whom I had no reason to distrust after I explained my personal word processing requirements) led me to believe Pages was a substitute for MS Word, and

Have you already encountered a vendor telling you: don't buy my product, it will not fit your needs?
The only datas which is of true consistence are the printed ones and they never stated that Pages is a complete substitute for Word.

(2) Apple, knowing the dominance of MS Word and the need of the general public to work in such a Word-dominated world, could have easily provided a means to default save such documents in Pages. I had no desire to implement your hack or PeterBreis0807's. Such a hack should not be necessary.

If Apple didn't apply the setting introduced by the given hack : change a single flag, it's of course a deliberate choice. Apple's engineers are sufficiently clever to apply the change if the deciders ask them to do that. As far as I know, these deciders are free to make choices even if they don't match your advice !

As I stated in my post, my solution was simply to buy Office 2008 for Mac.

You are perfectly free to do that and I am perfectly free to make an other choice.

I suggest you change your attitude and take a more civil (and humble) tone when responding in this forum.

I'm 66 years old and nobody was able to force me to change the way I write or speak.
Sometimes, the moderators remove some message. They are free to do that but I feel free to write what I want.

Good luck with MSWord 😉

Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE jeudi 25 juin 2009 20:46:54)

Yes, the answer is simple! Buy MS MacOffice 2008 if you need reliable business world compatibility. If you have a student in your household, you can get the education version (same as the full retail version) for about $150 AND it includes 3 licenses!

I love my Macs and I like iWork 09, but, I work in the financial services industry and my partners, staff and vendors all us PCs and MS Office. So, I have MacOffice 20008 for documents that I have to share and I use iWork for everything else. One exception is for brochures that I create, I use Adobe InDesign CS4.

Cheers.
Bud James

I have the same dilemma, It is obvious that Pages is not really a substitute for Word. We have a mix of pc's and mac's and trying to use Numbers, Pages, Keynote along with Office and its just not working. We are now deciding whether we go to Google Docs or buy Office.

Now if we could only get Apple employees to not say that iWork is a real substitute for MsOffice!

Then there wouldn't be a cause for complaint.

P.

It can be a "substitute" for the majority of users who don't need what only Office has, but I agree that no one, Apple employee or otherwise, should tell anyone it's a replacement or clone for Office.

Hello Peggy

Vendors will stop to lie the day hens will have teeth 😉

Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE mercredi 8 juillet 2009 21:01:25)

I wasn't talking about vendors - makers of the software, but Apple Store employees, other reseller employees, media reporters, etc.