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And we all know how those hens got their teeth knocked out:

They told their customers they laid golden eggs, instead of the plain old white breakfast variety!

P.

Peggy wrote:

As far as I know,

makers of the software,

didn't describe iWork as an Office substitute.

but Apple Store employees, other reseller employees,

These are vendors.

media reporters, etc.

I read several media items about iWork. And alas, they write what vendors said.
I send my comments to French ones but they are satisfied with their wrong writings.
They are taking their wishes for the truth which is perfectly wrong.

Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE jeudi 9 juillet 2009 12:04:42)

PeterBreis0807 wrote:
Now if we could only get Apple employees to not say that iWork is a real substitute for MsOffice!

They may just quote what they find on Apple's iWork page:

" Compatibility
Open, save, and email Microsoft Office files."

I know from experience this does not mean that "Save" actually saves as MS Office format, but that it can save a copy so I end up with two documents with the same content, which I need to manage. However, I think an employee who just reads the text is excused if he thinks the open and save actions are seamless.

Or from the compatibility page:

"You can save everything you do in Pages, Numbers, or Keynote as Word, Excel, PowerPoint, or PDF files."

That is clearly wrong, as the export process loses information. You cannot save "everything". Again, an employee who reads that text, is he likely to assume it means "you can export every file to other formats, and some of the information in the file may be retained in those formats"?

I was attempting to use the word vendor in the context I've seen you use it many, many times - referring to the company that makes the software, not the ones who sell it on the retail level.

In this thread, I always used "vendor" to name the employees of shops selling products.

Vendors of applications, vendors of motorcars, vendors of peanuts (remember Jimmy Carter), plus or minus, they are all liers.
The rule in these works, is to sell by all means.

As I wrote several times, I never trust them and given that, I'm acustomed to read carefully existing resources before buying something and of course, to use trial versions when they are available.

How may some one imagine that iWork may be able to replace Office
when its spreadsheet component offer about 256 FUNCTIONS() while XL offer more than 500 ?
Same question when a Numbers table is restricted to 255 (256) columns while XL accepts at least 16384 of them.

Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE jeudi 9 juillet 2009 18:25:04)

Yvan,

Trying to follow the trail of non-responsibility in Apple.

Who exactly is not an employee in Apple but is actually responsible for what they say or print or pronounce in promoting their software to the public?

Or the other way who is an employee of Apple but not responsible for what they say or print or pronounce in promoting their software to the public?

Do they wear special hats or a red a carnation in their lapels so that the public can tell whether to dismiss everything they say or believe them absolutely. The red carnation may help distinguish the majority of Apple employees you meet because they wear T-Shirts with no lapel buttons.

So maybe the distinction should be that anything anyone in a T-Shirt says doesn't count and may or maybe not a lie.

You always seem to come with a special category or change of name title etc that absolves this nebulous Apple from responsibility.

Please clarify those of us confused by the twists and turns.

Peter

Those who designed the products perfectly know that the package is not a substitute for Office.
They took time to define a long list of alerts describing problems during import or export processes.

Those who wrote the Guides no more claims that it's a substitute…

Those wro wrote commercial descriptions uses in advertisements took care of that too.

Apple employees in stores aren't here to help you to use applications, they are here to sell them.
They are able to respond exactly what will push the asker to buy the product even it it's a lie.

Even in YOUR messages, I was able to read reports of wrong infos given by Apple employees in stores.

I'm really surprised that you discover that at this time.
It's not specific to Apple. Every vendors behave this way.

To be short: the product which they aren't paid to sell is a bad one, the one which they are paid to sell is a perfect one able to do everything you need and more !

Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE vendredi 10 juillet 2009 11:55:25)

ROTFL.

P.

It's not specific to Apple. Every vendors behave this way.

With regard to Apple documentation and Apple marketing, whether it is misleading or not is a matter for the courts in member countries and ultimately for the Commission. For instance, Apple Pages was introduced in 2005 as making available "advanced typography" and Apple Mac OS X 10.4 was introduced in 2005 as making available "search of PDF". Because the product Apple supplies does not support search of PDF for advanced typography, Apple could have a case to answer in court for any customer who chose to pursue the point.

/hh

I apologize but:

Apple Mac OS X 10.4 was introduced in 2005 as making available "search of PDF".

doesn't mean that it supports

search of PDF for advanced typography

Once again, we are supposed to be able to read carefully.

Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE samedi 11 juillet 2009 10:59:35)