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iPod Photo: Poor Sound Quality - Updates

As most of us who have bought the iPod Photo already know, the sound quality IS FLAWED. The distorsion (or background crackling) of high frequency/high output sound (such as piano, high output electric guitar & some deep bass output - however the vocals seem to be fine) is there and something needs to be done about it. Some good examples of where this kind of problem occurs, from what I have found are: Radiohead (most of the OK Computer album), The Hives (the iPod Photo cannot seem to cope with their loud distorted guitar style & very high output), and Incubus (a lot of Morning View). Some people who are still using the tinny, lacklustre stock earbuds, or just don't listen to their music carefully enough, or listen niavely, may still not recognise this.

I refuse to let this issue drop, as I have spent good money on what should be, a technically flawless sound player. I do like this player though (mine is 60GB). The features are good, the photo element is excellent, the 60GB storage is unrivalled, but the main function of the player, to play music, is not good for this one issue. It is so disappointing considering Apple have obviously overlooked this issue (or simply let it slip by thinking nobody would notice), for what is otherwise an excellent piece of equipment.

I record all my music on iTunes, using the MP3 encoder. Some people think the MP3 encoder in iTunes is poor, but it is as good as most. It is all ripped at 224kbps VBR. I use Shure E2c earphones, which are also excellent, and by far the best value for money if you're looking for a warm tone & deep bass in your sound. The step up in price to the Shure E3c might be worth it if you prefer a more detailed, but possibly colder sound.

All that considered, there is absolutely no reason why the sound should be poor on my iPod Photo (when it is fine on the iPod Mini, and using Audio software on my PC), apart from there being a hardware/software glitch. There simply must be. Either that, or something in the sound has been compromised to accomodate the photo elements or colour screen.

I have sent an e-mail to Apple regarding all this, and will hopefully hear from them soon about what is going to be done to resolve this. I will keep this post updated as and when I hear news from them. I also have a case number in motion with their customer services department, and they cannot ignore this anymore.

Something must be done! Redeem yourselves, Apple!

Posted on Apr 10, 2005 10:29 PM

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Oct 12, 2005 11:39 AM in response to Johnny Wood

Just came across this thread. Thankfully, I'm obviously not going out of my mind! I replaced my 20gig iPod with a new 30gig iPod Photo. Since then i have been experiencing problems with audio distortion from various types of music. The distortion is not only at Mid-Hi frequencies like those found in Piano but also in the lower end.

I have several types of earphones. Stock-which i hate. Sony EX 71, Sony EX 81, Etymotic Er6i and, my favourites, the Shure E4c's. I do like using the Sony's a lot though as they have great base and are comfortable enough to wear in bed going to sleep.

I can detect mild distortion in all of the earphones, especially the Shure and Etymotic. I thought i was going mad as the same MP3's (most at 256bps) play perfectly off my G5 and Powerbook.

So, it looks like the iPod is faulty. What should I do? Are Apple replacing the defective units?

Oct 12, 2005 6:49 PM in response to Gr1f

I have a 2-month old 60GB iPod Color. There is definitely distortion whenever I play piano, classical, or ambient pieces. Distortion ranges from mild to severe. Different encoding rates and earphones have yielded no significant improvement.

Does this problem fall under Apple's warranty program? Has anyone tried sending in their 'distorting iPods' to Apple and received a distortion-free iPod in return? Please let us know!

Oct 12, 2005 9:01 PM in response to Johnny Wood

I can't imagine that there's much chance it will get fixed with the upcoming release of the video iPod. I guess that people with 4G will just have to deal. Apple obviously couldn't care less that they've sold a whole big batch of distortion prone iPods. I'm sure a lot of people have noticed, but only the relative few posting to forums have made a fuss about it.

Typical big corporation - they couldn't care less about their customers once they part them from their hard earned 299 bucks.

Oct 13, 2005 4:24 PM in response to Gr1f

Well, I've seen posts by people claiming to have sent theirs back. They either get them back with the same problem, or get a new one with the same problem.

There's a huge thread on iLounge about this.

I hope yours works out for you though. Please keep us updated, because if you actually get one that's good, I'd like to follow and get one that's good too.

Oct 19, 2005 9:22 AM in response to Johnny Wood

So is this a problem with EVERY iPod 60GB Photo or is it isolated or what? I am planning on buying a 60gb photo from a guy who just got a new one from Apple as a replacement (for an unrelated problem).

As is often the case on forums like this, you most only hear from folks who do have the problem, not folks who are not experiencing issues.

Can anyone estimate the percentages of folks with the problem?

Thanks. I appreciate the feedback!

Mitch

Oct 19, 2005 11:32 AM in response to Mitch Towne1

I was right on the verge of buying a reduced price 20g photo, even asking about cases for it, but came across this thread and held up. You are right that people with problems are the main folks that post, but this issue seems a bit different.

Reading through this thread and the one on iPod lounge, it seems that there are people that have the problem with distortion and people that have it but don't notice it for a variety of reasons. There are a few that have posted insisting that if they had the problem, they would notice it.

As an example of a related issue... I went to a lot of work to find the best way to get my music from my Cds to my computer in a format that sounded best to me. Many people thought I was nuts, but I could just hear inferior music quality with many methods of mp3 ripping. I am not an audiophile at all, they just sounded wrong to my ear when compared to the original cd. When I finally decided how to rip them, I am quite happy with the result, but others still can not hear any difference and insist I am wrong.

I listen to a lot of jazz and even with original cds, some cds have trumpets and pianos distorting and it bothers me. I hear a lot of live music so maybe that affects my judgment. Because of this, I am not buying an iPod right now.

Oct 20, 2005 4:53 PM in response to Johnny Wood

I just came across this thread.

I have a first generation iPod (one of the very first), one of the first iPod minis, and a 20G iPod photo. The sound quality on the iPod photo is considerably improved (richer range, crisper quality) that either of the other units. This is noticable through ear phones and in the car.

I have no complaints. (And, yes I have a very good ear and musical training.)

Oct 26, 2005 5:52 PM in response to Johnny Wood

I confirm Klaus's findings. I had the chance to test the video and the distortion is not there. This confirms that the distortion is not caused by the video connection in the headphone port, nor an impedance issue. I beleive that this particular SQ problem stems from the amplifier in the photo. I recommend getting an exchange photo (if your out of the 2 week return period otherwise just return it) and then returning the new one before the renewed 2 week period is over. This is exactly what I did at my local apple store and I'm very glad I did.

iPod Photo: Poor Sound Quality - Updates

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