Temp gauge says 135F for processor.....I think this is too hot!!!

I just got a dual 1.25 and have 4 hd loaded in it. What is the average temp for this processor and hard drives? I have seagate drives which says 101 as an average for these today.

Any info on the fans inside the mac and how many are there and how to check to make sure they are working correctly?

Thanks for any info ....I've shut it down and am using my old mac until I find out if it should be that HOT.

thanks,
Tony B.

G4 AGP power mac 1GHz w/sonnet upgrade, Mac OS X (10.4.11), FCP 5.04 HD

Posted on Mar 28, 2009 3:56 PM

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Mar 28, 2009 7:13 PM in response to Beazley

Hi-

You are running right at the border of CPU freezes with that temperature.
With 4 hard drives, and the heat from the CPUs, you are really taxing the cooling ability of your machine.

Do you use CHUD tools for Nap mode in the processors? CHUD will help with CPU temps, normally, but under load, and during heavy hard drive activity, the heat from the hard drives will combine with the processor heat to keep temps high.

You might consider getting an external firewire housing or two, and moving the drives from the ATA/66 bus to the external housings.

The large case fan, 120 x 120 x 38mm may be slowing down, or dirty, or may just need to be replaced with one of higher CFM. The 3,000RPM Scythe Ultra Kaze will boost the airflow inside the case over the OEM fans 90CFM ability.

Another possible aid would be a 32CFM (or more) PCI slot fan to exhaust some of that hot air from the case.

At a minimum, make sure all intake and exhaust vents in the case are free from dust and lint. The same is to be said for the CPU heatsink, all components, and the interior of the PSU.
Compressed air will help the process.

Mar 28, 2009 7:36 PM in response to japamac

Good to hear from ya Japamac,
No I don't use the chud tools but I've never heard of them either. Can you tell me how to run that app? I haven't had a chance to really get busy and tax the processors yet with FCP ....just been surfing the web with it today....I'll recheck those fans again.
*But I will get one of those pci fans ...Good Idea!*

All my macs have run under 85-100F or so but this MDD is so closed in and cramped.

This is a very clean mac as I keep all my macs on my table and not the floor. And just blew it out with the vacuum cleaner last week when I got it...

Thanks for the tips !!

Tony B.

Mar 29, 2009 9:45 PM in response to japamac

Ok I checked my big fan and it is really slow hardly any wind from it..... do you think the new 3000 rpm would be too loud or too much for it?

I'll try that chud tools and see it it cools down but I will wait till I get the fans first...
the temp climbs to 120F in 2 minutes after being on......geez..

my single 1 ghz only reaches 85F.... but I have that sonnet processor with the fan blowing directly across the processor....they made a good design!

thanks for your help....!!!!
Tony

Jun 6, 2009 1:49 AM in response to Beazley

Hi-

There are two fans in the power supply.
Info here:
http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/systems/g4mirrored_drive_doors/noise_reduction/g4_ddr_noisereduction.html

You can use any fan of the appropriate specs.
The Verax kits are long gone.

As for the 120mm fan, get a 120x120x38mm fan of at least 88CFM. Easy to find with that size.

As for thermal compound, Yes, reapplying is a great idea.
Definitely use Arctic Cooling MX-2.

Jun 6, 2009 10:24 AM in response to Beazley

Don't Panic.

135F is about average for the MDD, mine runs at between 135F and 138F.
143.6F is shown as the "Specified Upper Limit".
Mine never goes below 128F, and that was only in mid-winter after it had been off for 3 weeks. As soon as I fired up Entourage and Firefox, it was up to 137.5F.

I have 4 hard disks too, between 93F and 101F. And don't worry about the upper limit, I've had my MDD CPU temp up at 145-146F. But when it does, I stop everything and let the fans bring it back to normal.

But, as advised, don't get overconfident, I give my MDD a thorough cleaning every couple of months.

Jun 6, 2009 8:19 PM in response to japamac

Thanks for those links...I might cut a few extra holes in my case like that guy did and add a couple of extra fans to get the hot air out.

Will this fan still use the chud app. and speed up and down when necessary?

I had no idea that this was an average temp for these ...so use to my 1 ghz running at 90F most of the time....

I'll get the 120mm @2000rpm along with a couple of 80mms to throw in there...

I always keep my macs on my desk away from floor dust and debris..


Thanks!!!

Tony B.

Jun 7, 2009 9:33 AM in response to Nadav

Thanks Erik do you have a photo of your fan placements....that would help give me a better idea...any kind of cutting involved to place the fans? I will keep my 4 drives in though since I use them everyday but I do put them to sleep at 5 minutes if not used...

Should I drill any extra holes in the case just to let the hot air out....I was thinking around the psu ....I'm not looking to make a frankenmac though...

thanks for every bodies help on this...

Jun 7, 2009 10:18 AM in response to Beazley

Hi Beazley,

I sure don't have any photos at the moment, as I have made the switch to my Mac Pro. But, all you have to do is purchase a 120MM fan and mount it on top of the roof of the optical drive housing. Since it uses a molex for powering it, you then need to connect it to the molex connector on the bottom inside the front drive housing.

You don't have to drill any holes of any kind. Heck, I never even attempted to put small fans behind my processor's heatsink, as that does require some kind of drilling.

For extra cooling, you can also add another small fan on the bottom and stick it underneath the front drive cage. Just make sure its positioned to blow air out the back.

With the combination of a 120mm fan, smaller fan in the front drive area, and a PCI slot fan - my temps were around 120 degrees under heavy load, and light load was around 98 degrees. I don't use celsius, so this is in fahrenheit.

Jun 18, 2009 3:57 PM in response to Nadav

I do believe it is a 360 watt psu.At least thats what the max on the sticker says. It has the Nidec Beta V Fans in it.

I just ordered all new fans for the mac. A couple of extras to see if I can find a good placement area to keep it moving.

I went with these fans....and they are all lower in rpm's and noise , but higher in cfm.

1-SILENX 120X38MM FAN|IXP-76-18 for the heat sink RPM 1400 RPM
90 CFM 18 dBA

1-Rosewill RFX-100 90mm *PCI Fan* RPM2000 35.12CFM 25.24dBA

1- IPCQUEEN 60mm *for Optical fan* 3300RPM 26.5CFM 30dBA
and two extras for different placement possibilities...

2- IPCQUEEN 60mm x 25 for psu these are 10 cfm higher than stock

1- Rosewill 80mm x 25 2500RPM 33.21CFM 22.41dBA for a strategic placement .


I 'll let you know how things turn out..._hopefully I can figure out how to hook these up since they are not all 2 pins like the stock ones_ ...I'm sure I will be back to ask a question about that....

Thanks guys for the help

Tony B.

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