DDP and proper PQ sheets please!

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DDP and proper PQ sheets please!

Hi, I am a long time WB user, I absolutely love this program. It is streamlined, simple, quick and it does what it is intended to do cleanly and efficiently. Like many other engineers, I have been forced to look at other software to create DDP sets. If Apple developers are reading this forum, please, please, please consider adding DDP support to WB. Also, proper, nice looking PQ sheets would be another very very welcome feature for me. It takes me extra time to open up the 'mastering notes' in Word and have to format them. Seems stupid to have to do that. If you added these two things, WB would be completely perfect in my mind. I master audiobooks, and we have a lot of material to deal with all the time. I'm talking like 20, 30 hours of audio for a program...so I need a program like this that isn't too complicated, but can get through a lot mastering efficiently. I really want to stick with WB, I love it, but if you never support DDPs I will be forced to go elsewhere...unhappily.

Macbook Core 2 Duo 2.0 ghz, Mac OS X (10.5.6)

Posted on Apr 14, 2009 11:49 PM

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moogan

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Apr 19, 2009 1:10 PM in response to thedanny

Agreed, I like Waveburner's straightforward approach.

Incidentally, Wave Editor by Audiofile Engineering has DDP and PQ support (import and export) and costs a reasonable $79. However it's nowhere as quick to use as Waveburner for authoring. The interface is rather fiddly in my opinion for creating CD track layouts, so probably really slow for audiobook creation! It also has the Izotope Mbit dither engine as a positive.

Also Apple should look at the 15 bit dither bug. ( It's been reported that Waveburner loses 1bit of data when it bounces and dithers. Essentially creates 15bit CDs. It's apparently ok if you import only pre dithered 16 bit files and don't bounce; i.e. burn directly. )

More on the Gearslutz forum: http://tinyurl.com/d9ztwo

NB: Apple does not look at these forums, so it's best to use the official feedback route: I'd encourage everyone to do this. There doesn't appear to be a specific feedback form for Waveburner, but the Logic one should be ok : http://www.apple.com/feedback/logicpro.html

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Panda15

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May 20, 2009 2:49 PM in response to thedanny

hi there
I found the lack of proper documentation a bit of a pain too. Only solution I could come up with was to take a screenshot of the tracks which gives you all the info that a print in say Jam would give you. Hope that helps.

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thedanny Author

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May 26, 2009 9:58 PM in response to Panda15

Well you can do what I do which is go to 'save mastering info' and then it saves a text file. You can open it in Word and format it. But yes, it seems inane that you would have to do this. I'm sure an Apple coder could write the code to automatically format this info into a real PQ sheet in about 4 minutes.

The DDP thing seems weird. It's obviously a no-brainer. I just think Apple must not be putting any resources into this piece of software at the moment. Hopefully they do.

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thedanny Author

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May 26, 2009 10:00 PM in response to moogan

Yes I actually have Wave Editor as well. I tried to use it for mastering CDs and making DDP sets and found it more cumbersome. I am sure if I used it more often it would get simple for me, but I really find Waveburner to be so absolutely perfect for what I do, that I'd rather complain until Apple adds these 2 features. 🙂

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moogan

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Jun 5, 2009 7:46 PM in response to thedanny

Yes, Wave Editor is good for editing but the "layout" features aren't anywhere as good as Waveburner's. I really like the interface of Waveburner even though it does look rather like FCP and Soundtrack era stuff.

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moogan

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Jul 23, 2009 2:06 PM in response to thedanny

This appears to be added in v1.6 part of Logic Studio 9:

"This CD mastering and authoring tool is simple enough for you to quickly turn out demo discs, and powerful enough for you to deliver professional premasters, Red Book–standard CDs, and Disc Description Protocol (DDP) files. The professional effects in Logic Studio make it simple to master the perfect disc.

WaveBurner features an intuitive layout with large waveform viewers. Advanced editing and navigation tools. Separate region, track, and plug-in panes. And now graphic parameter automation. WaveBurner 1.6 also has major interface enhancements like Mix Lane, which gives you a real-time graphic visualization of all your edits, including region and parameter changes."

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