Flip mino or flip ultra HD to use in imovie and final cut express

i am contemplating either flip mino HD, Flip ultra HD or creative vado HD. Which one has a good video quality and design style? Is it necessary for 2 hrs movie or actually i like the flip mino coz its slimmer but only takes 1 hr video. By the way, What kind of format the flip camcorder will save as coz someone says its .avi but some says Mp4 format? If in Mp4 format, is the quality still good? most of the time i will shoot in ultra hi definition setting. I will use imovie and final cut for edit and does the Flip compatible to imovie and Final cut? How about creative vado? any recommendation?
But most likely i will get the flip.

macbook air, Mac OS X (10.5.6)

Posted on May 2, 2009 5:45 AM

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Tom Wolsky

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Jul 19, 2009 1:36 PM in response to lgambis

What does the camera shoot? 1280x720 or standard definition? What format is the original media? I assumed it was standard definition because you converted to DV. Give us exact details of what your camera is producing.

lgambis

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Jul 19, 2009 1:42 PM in response to Tom Wolsky

The Flip Mino outputs an MP4 file. I checked the properties of the file under "get info" and I get:

Dimensions: 1280x720
Codecs: H.264,AAC
Channel count: 1
Total bit rate: 9,472
Size" 46.7 MB

I used Streamclip to convert from MP4 to Apple DVDPRO50-NTSC, using the default settings but changing the Frame size to 1280 x 720 (HDTV 720p).

Tom Wolsky

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Jul 19, 2009 2:02 PM in response to lgambis

Why DVCPRO50? Anyway. Export as QuickTime. Select the Apple Intermediate Codec. Set the frame size to 1280x720. Uncompressed 48K audio. 29.97fps.

lgambis

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Jul 19, 2009 2:24 PM in response to Tom Wolsky

I was using DVDPRO50 as recommended by a previous user on page one of this thread.

I followed your instructions. Still not working (video needs rendering). Do I have to change the sequence settings? Under the sequence's properties, it says "720x480" for the frame size: doesn't those numbers have to match the clip's settings of "1280x720"? And if so, how do I change that?

Thanks.

Tom Wolsky

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Jul 19, 2009 2:58 PM in response to lgambis

Not on this thread. There's no reference to DVCPRO50 on here.

Yes, you have to change the sequence settings to match your media. Use easy setup in the FCE menu. You may need to read a little of the manual to use this application.

lgambis

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Jul 19, 2009 3:42 PM in response to Tom Wolsky

I'll dive into the manual a little more. Ian R. Brown on this thread
( http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1994337) which I think is page 1 of the current thread suugested I use the Apple DV/DVCPRO-NTSC, unless I misunderstood. Anyway, thanks for you help Tom. I think I'm close. 😉

Tom Wolsky

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Jul 19, 2009 4:14 PM in response to lgambis

That's right. He suggested Apple DV/DVCPRO-NTSC. Not DVCPRO50. Apple DV/DVCPRO-NTSC is DV25.

lgambis

Level 1

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Jul 19, 2009 4:57 PM in response to Tom Wolsky

My bad. Actually, I got it to work, changing the Sequence settings to AIC 720p30. Thanks again.

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