How to Perform a Clean Install of Panther 10.3

I am currently running Jaguar 10.2.8 (no OS9) on an iMac G3/400, 320 megs ram, dsl internet. I want to perform a clean install of Panther 10.3 (not the upgrade or archive + install). After placing the first Panther disc in the slot, I get a screen on which I click the install icon, I then click the restart, the machine reboots, gives me an installation screen asking me to choose the language, I choose English, then click "continue", I then get a screen telling me I cannot install OSX because the "firmware" is not up to date. I then have to click on the "close" button, then use a pin to get the cd out of the machine. I thought the only firmware update necessary was when you want to install Jaguar over OS9. How can I fix this situation so I can install Panther? I am not much of a techie, fairly new to Mac so please make your reply easy to follow. Thanks.

iMac G3/400, Mac OS X (10.2.x), 320 megs of ram, 2 meg, dsl internet

Posted on May 4, 2009 7:40 AM

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May 5, 2009 3:44 PM in response to ali brown

Hi Ali. I have the full retail version, exactly the same discs. This way of installing is insane. I ought to just be able to erase/install Panther on my existing Jaguar installation. This along with the Mac Pro mouse (I am using a usb Logitech "click" PC mouse, can scroll, right click etc) are the lousiest parts of my Mac experience. Thanks, Ken.

May 5, 2009 6:11 PM in response to Pixturesk

Pixturesk:
I ought to just be able to erase/install Panther on my existing Jaguar installation.

You very likely can. I am guessing that if you had Jaguar installed, the firmware will have been updated before Jaguar could be installed. Since the firmware is installed directly on the computer erasing the HDD will not affect it. If you went directly to installing Panther and the firmware had not been updated, you will be prompted to update the firmware, in which case you will have to go through the hoops. If you don't need OS 9 or the Classic environment, you wouldn't then have to install OS 9 at all. If you decide you would like to have OS 9, after all, you can add it later. So, if you format with the Panther install disk I would install OS 9 drivers, just in case.

😉 cornelius

May 6, 2009 11:40 AM in response to cornelius

Cornelius, I got the prompt to update the firmware, then Panther won't let me go any further. So I will have to go through the hoops. Once I erase and clean install OS 9.0.4, where is the update access located in OS 9, is it sort of like updating in OSX. I gather that I only have to update to 9.1 not 9.2.2, then I can install the 4.1.9 firmware (can I get the 4.1.9 firmware from the same source as the 9.1 update?). I know I will not have any use for OS 9. Once I install Panther, I never want to see OS 9 again. I can connect to my ISP with Jaguar but to use iMail, my ISP requires Panther. The initial use of my iMac will be as a backup to my P3 600 PC running Win98SE in case something mechanical happens to it (not worth fixing) or I can no longer run some of the software I want. I am not anxious to buy another machine, then have to run either XP or Vista. At that point I will have to see if I want to change to Mac permanently, in which case I will be on the lookout for a PPC G5. In the meantime I can play extensively with this iMac, see if its for me. I am also exploring Linux. I am not of the computer generation, self taught, trial + error, so learning this computer stuff is an intellectual challenge, keeps my brain functioning at a fairly high level. I appreciate this forum, I know I am not alone. Thanks again, Ken.

May 6, 2009 4:51 PM in response to Pixturesk

Ken:

Sorry. I misunderstood your question.

Burn the updates to CD or to a USB jump drive. Once you have the HDD formatted and OS 9 installed, insert the drive into the optical drive or USB port. Double click on the icon for the upgrade and select the destination. It is not like software update which is automatic. It is like if you downloaded the OS X update and went to install. For purposes of installing the firmware update you only need 9.1, as you already know, so you don't need to go all the way to 9.2.2.

😉 cornelius

May 17, 2009 6:10 PM in response to Pixturesk

Cornelius + others. Happy to report a successful but somewhat "nightmarish" (took 5 hours) install of Panther 10.3. I installed OS 9.0.4 as what I thought was a clean install but somehow all my Jaguar stuff was still there. OS 9 was not going to let me eject the installation cd, so I took a pin to get it out. Now with access to the OS 9 desktop, I set about to install 9.1 then the 4.1.9 firmware. OS 9 was not seeing my flash drive with the updates on it so I got online with my dsl modem using Internet Explorer, got the updates that way, installed them from my desktop, even the firmware went perfectly. Then I began the Panther 10.3 "erase + install" process with disk #1, which went great for the first 40 per cent, then without notice, the installer ejected disk #1 without explanation or further instruction so I began the Panther install again. This time the disk #1 install went perfectly, asking me to install disk #2, but ejecting same disk immediately. I just stuck it in again, this time it works perfectly. Disc #3 went perfectly (my custom install was BSD, the iApps, X11), then came about 17 updates, I was set to go. Now I am installing Firefox with about 20 great extensions + my Logitech Click usb mouse which is far superior to the Mac Pro Mouse which came with the computer, then some other software, system configuring. Well worth the effort, am very happy with the result. Thanks again for all your help, without which I might still be using Jaguar.

May 17, 2009 7:25 PM in response to Pixturesk

Ken:

Congratulations! It is not usually that difficult, but look at the great education your got. (I know; you could have done without the education 🙂 ) In any case, sounds like you are pretty well loaded up. If you don't have a backup, I suggest you consider getting an external firewire HDD and make a clone using SuperDuper or Carbon Copy Cloner and doing regular updates. That way, should you have issues, you will have an emergency boot drive from which you can boot your computer, and which you can use to restore your installation. Again, nice job. Enjoy.

😉 cornelius

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