PowerBook G4 1GHz fan runs constantly

I'm working on a 1GHz Titanium PowerBook G4 (the final Ti model), with 1GB RAM and Mac OS 10.5.6 installed. After being shut down for about 20 hours (i.e. cold), I started it up and ran Software Update - nothing else - and within 5-6 minutes the fan started up, and has run constantly since. I tried resetting the Power Manager, but that has made no difference. I also tried running the computer from an external disk (10.4.11) but the fan just kept going. It seems the fan is just running all the time the computer is running. (Unfortunately, the Temperature Monitor utility cannot read the sensors in this model, so I don't know what the CPU temperature is.) I'm not familiar with this model; can anyone tell me if this is normal behavior? Or suggest what I might try to do about it?

PowerBook G4 Ti 1GHz, Mac OS X (10.5.6), 1GB RAM, 60GB HD, SuperDrive

Posted on May 10, 2009 6:01 PM

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May 10, 2009 6:28 PM in response to HandyMac

Hi H,

Maybe. There are many variables. If the ambient temp and humidity are high, could be normal. If it's sitting on your lap or something soft like a bed (lacking proper ventilation), could be normal.

Also depends on how much the CPU if being taxed.

Your TiBook has two fans, both in the rear, the CPU fan in the middle, and the power supply fan in the right hand corner. Try unplugging the power adapter and see if the fan behavior changes (normally, the power supply fan will shut off, and, unless the CPU is getting heavy usage, so does the CPU fan).

May 10, 2009 7:39 PM in response to tjk

Thanks for your response.

Well, the little darlin's been asleep for a while, so I woke it up. No fan for about 10 minutes this time; I opened Safari and went to Yahoo, then opened Illustrator, nothing taxing, but still no fan. Then I connected an external disk and opened some windows, preparing to install some System updates. Now the fan came on.

It sounds like just the one in the right rear, I.e. the power supply fan -- perhaps because of the power draw from the external HD? I disconnected the power adapter, but the fan still continues ten minutes later. And earlier when I wrote the above, from how loud it was I'm guessing both fans were going, though there was no external HD connected at first, and all I'd done was start it up and run Software Update.

I disconnected the external HD; with the power adapter still disconnected (running on battery), the fan is still going: air coming out the vent on the right side, but not in the back or on the left.

Now the fan has stopped. Activity Monitor shows itself using 3.5% CPU, SystemUIServer using 0.5%, everything else at 0.

Connect the external bus-powered FireWire HD again, and the fan comes on again in a minute or two. After ten minutes or so I disconnect the external HD, then the power adapter; fan still on, stops after five minutes. Which reveals that the CPU (center) fan is running, though the computer's doing nothing other than displaying the Finder.

Ambient temperature's about 80F; humidity is 3% here in the high desert. The PB is sitting on a table on its rubber feet, so it has some air flow. The bottom is warm, but I wouldn't call it hot; I can rest it on my hand with no discomfort.

I have a 12" PowerBook (1.5GHz); I've noticed its fan comes on a lot (more than my MacBook Pro 17" 2.5GHz, which commonly has maybe a dozen apps open but seldom makes fan noise - though I know its fancy variable fans can be quiet), but it does have to be doing some actual work first.

This TiBook crams twice the speed into the case originally designed for the first 400/500MHz model, so I guess it shouldn't be surprising if it runs a little hot. It seems excessive though for the fan to be running all the time even when the computer is idling. Constant fan noise drives me nuts, like a ringing phone it feels like a demand that I DO SOMETHING. I'll be asking the owner of this TiBook tomorrow if she's used to it doing this.

May 10, 2009 7:58 PM in response to HandyMac

Hope you'll post back with her reply, but from what you've said, this behavior sounds normal. 80 is a bit higher than "normal;" if I remember correctly, my 867's fans will also start after 10-15 minutes when the temp is that high.

One thing that may help is to raise the rear of the PB an inch or two, while making sure there's still air space under the front. I built a stand for mine and it has helped considerably; as the warm air moves out the raised back, it creates some air flow from front and sides (fan noise drives me nuts too).

May 11, 2009 7:37 PM in response to tjk

+Hope you'll post back with her reply, but from what you've said, this behavior sounds normal. 80 is a bit higher than "normal;" if I remember correctly, my 867's fans will also start after 10-15 minutes when the temp is that high.+

She says yeah, the fans are on a lot but she hadn't really noticed it. This is her first Mac, bought a year or two ago I think, so she has nothing to compare it with; while I've been using and working with Macs for over 20 years and have always hated the few models with loud, hyperactive fans. A few years back I put a G4 CPU upgrade in my 'Pismo' PowerBook, but soon removed it because it ran hot enough to start up the fan (a real screamer) frequently. My next Mac after that was a 17" 1.5GHz PowerBook whose fans tended to run a lot; I spent a lot of time struggling with it on that account. Anyway, she doesn't seem to mind it, so I'll just proceed now I'm fairly convinced the behavior is "normal".

+One thing that may help is to raise the rear of the PB an inch or two, while making sure there's still air space under the front.+

I put felt furniture feet on the bottom of my portables, both to give them a little air circulation and so they'll slide easily on the desk; I'll probably do that with this PowerBook as well.

Thanks again for your comments.

May 12, 2009 5:27 AM in response to HandyMac

I wouldn't add slippery feet to anyone else's Powerbook without asking first. I'd hate it if my own portables slid freely around on any smooth surface, and your friend/client may feel the same way. Besides, elevating the back edge of the machine an inch or so promotes convective airflow more effectively than raising the whole machine slightly. I prop the back edge of my 1GHz Tibook up on an old Art Gum pencil eraser.

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