Mac Pro processor thermal paste toxic...?

Just got back with my Mac Pro from a local AASP on an unresolved buzzing sound on the PSU. A tech guy over there explained to me that the apparent strong smell emanating from the first generation Pro when the processors are loaded, basically came from a specialised thermal paste that Apple used, which he claimed is supposedly toxic, and not very good for health in the long run.

Are there any basis to this...?

As I recall, my Pro did emanate a certain scent that kinda itched my throat 6 months ago apart from a electrical buzzing problem which led me to suspect a faulty PSU. The local AASP replaced it, only to find it making noises again. His claim does raise concerns on the after effects of health over the prolonged exposure to such smell.

Mac Pro 2x3GHz Quad-core Xeon, Mac OS X (10.5.6)

Posted on May 11, 2009 4:41 AM

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May 13, 2009 7:59 AM in response to Elphidieus

i had a psu noise issue while the machine is turned off but plugged in it would Emmit a buzzing osculating noise. aasp replaced my psu ( i did this 3x times ) now it is still there, but quieter than before. there is a smell which is coming from the psu when on, idk if this is bad (its pretty much like a LCD hd tv running for a long time hot) im not worried about that.

although i heard / read about that french article.


i'm kinda living with the noise bc it really didn't do anything, all things work, temps are fine, (i had an inspection of the electrical outlets by an electrician to see if that's alright and it was)

do you use a UPS?

May 17, 2009 5:59 AM in response to iJny9956

I do experience a buzzing sound on the PSU when the machine is turned off, but it's not as irritating as it is when on and loaded. I don't have any UPS plugged in at the moment other than a voltage regulator.

Anyhow, AppleCare has confirmed the toxicity of the thermal paste though they implied that it's not health-threatening, but I doubt otherwise, since I've been sitting next to my MP almost everyday for the past 2 years, I've felt my life has been shortened by a few years already. And my other local AASP also confirmed a relatively concentrated odor emanating from my MP. Already sent in for diagnostics, probably a replacement of the logic board and the offending components.

May 17, 2009 6:58 PM in response to Elphidieus

http://forums.macrumors.com/archive/index.php/t-337561.html this is interesting. for those who have ups, when the ups is turned on it will do a self test and during that time the ups will buzz and along with that the mac pro psu will buzz even louder. but then once its on its fine, but this is the first time i encountered the problem.


question: where does the smell come from?

mine is right by the place where the power cord is connected to the mac pro psu. and it just smells like hot electronics , like a tv so i was wondering.

May 18, 2009 8:40 AM in response to iJny9956

It comes from all over the Mac Pro, not only the PSU unit. Suffice to say, it can be detected even when I'm sitting 7 feet away from it. My Mac Pro is in a 130 sqft room. On an air-conditioned environment, pockets of hot air can be traced around the room, alongside with the smell. However when the air-conditioning unit is turned off, the entire room can be filled with such odor.

May 26, 2009 10:55 AM in response to Elphidieus

Vulcanized rubber isn't designed to conduct heat. The heat sink compound is designed to do that within specs without giving off toxic vapors. There's a fundamental difference between vulcanized rubber and heat sink compound. Don't mix up their uses. Driving a car on heat sink compound based tires would be dangerous, and using vulcanized rubber to transfer heat from a CPU to a heat sink won't be very effective.

May 29, 2009 10:06 PM in response to Elphidieus

Well, right off, if you are concerned with toxicity and long-term health effects of things in your home/office, air conditioners are pretty much tops of the list for the fungus and moulds that form in the air baffles.

I got rid of mine and am in a completely unconditioned home. The computer heat issue for the summer is fixed with a small hi-speed fan that shoves air into the front grille. I'll manage to cool the northbridge heat sink by 20-25 degrees with it running. Can be a bit noisy, but a good set of headphones with iTunes running fixes any distractions.

The smell, which my MP had as well, burned out after 6 months, but I always vent the house anyways so it's good as gone. Between the hot stink of old computer coming from the beige I have, (10 years running faithfully, I might add) three dumpster-dive CRT monitors (one with cat wee on it) and the new MP smell - it was a fairly stinky ordeal for a while.

Do you clean out your mac on a regular basis? I have found that a can of compressed air and a trip for two to the porch and blowing the gunk out goes a long way to keeping the heat - and the stink of hot machine - to a minimum.

Regards,

Deb.

May 29, 2009 10:51 PM in response to Deborah Terreson

You are right, the air conditioner in my room was at the top of my suspect list in the beginning (and even serviced the unit from time to time), but the smell ain't from there. It's just that when I turned on my Mac Pro and loaded it for a couple of hours, that's when and where the smell comes in and I'd been getting some sort of a burning sensation on my throat, plus a little difficulty in breathing.

The problem is even made worse when the room is unconditioned but with a small table fan blowing the air out of my room, the smell can be blown all the way out and made distinct into the kitchen area.

And yes, I thoroughly clean my Mac quarterly without fail. When my MP last visited the local AASP for a PSU replacement, even the engineer assigned to my case was kinda surprised I had a well-maintained Mac Pro pretty much less accumulated dust than other Mac Pros sent in for service.

I'm perplexed that until now neither Apple nor the local AASP has been able to positively identify the problem. Only wild guesses.

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