How to spin or tumble the video clips ?

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How to spin or tumble the video clips ?

I have a motion loop on track 1 (the most bottom track). On the tack above it, i have a video clip. I make the clip smaller so that some of the motion loop is visible. I also apply some boundary lines on the 4 rectangular borders.

But I wanted to make this video spin or tumble. How do i do it ? In motion tab, there is only a rotation along the plane parallel the computer screen (say this plane is x-axis). But what i want is for it to spin along y-axis.

I know in Boris 3D, I can tumble text in y-axis and z-axis. But how do I make the video clips do that ?

Thanks

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Posted on May 27, 2009 6:39 AM

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Answer 1

Tom Wolsky

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May 27, 2009 6:47 AM in response to RyanManUtd

Use the Basic 3D filter.

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RyanManUtd Author

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May 27, 2009 9:12 AM in response to Tom Wolsky

Tom Wolsky wrote:
Use the Basic 3D filter.

Thanks Tom but where does this Basic 3D filter located ?

I look through all the Video Filters but no able to locate it. Would appreciate if you can tell me where it is.

Does Basic 3D filter allows me to keyframe the spin & tumble action ?

Thanks

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skalicki

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May 27, 2009 9:17 AM in response to RyanManUtd

Basic 3D is under +Effects > Video Filters > Perspective > Basic 3D.+ It allows you to keyframe the y and z axis movement in addition to the normal x axis.

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RyanManUtd Author

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May 27, 2009 10:38 AM in response to skalicki

skalicki` wrote:
Basic 3D is under +Effects > Video Filters > Perspective > Basic 3D.+ It allows you to keyframe the y and z axis movement in addition to the normal x axis.

Thanks skalicki.

I have made the video clips smaller so that I can view the background. In addition to just rotating I also want it to move from left to right. So, I intend to keyframe it to move from left to the right after every one second. I tried to keyframe it but the variables in the CENTRE is ALWAYS ZERO even though I drag the clip out from the visible area of the screen. And it always spin at the same centre point !!

Any ideas ?

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skalicki

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May 27, 2009 10:52 AM in response to RyanManUtd

I intend to keyframe it to move from left to the right after every one second. I tried to keyframe it but the variables in the CENTRE is ALWAYS ZERO even though I drag the clip out from the visible area of the screen.

If you intend to keyframe it by dragging in the canvas, you will have to do that in the Motion tab of the viewer. Dragging does not make the values in Basic 3D change. If you wish to keyframe the center position in Basic 3D, you will have to do it by clicking on the crosshairs next to center in the filters window or input numbers manually. If you click the crosshairs, you can then hold down the mouse in the canvas and drag the image around.

And it always spin at the same centre point !!

Sorry, can you explain exactly what you want to happen here instead of spinning around the center point? If you want it to spin around another point in the clip than its center, you can only do that in the motion tab. You set the *Anchor point* on the clip there and then you can use the normal rotation in the motion tab to rotate around that point.

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RyanManUtd Author

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May 28, 2009 7:17 AM in response to skalicki

skalicki` wrote:

Sorry, can you explain exactly what you want to happen here instead of spinning around the center point? If you want it to spin around another point in the clip than its center, you can only do that in the motion tab. You set the *Anchor point* on the clip there and then you can use the normal rotation in the motion tab to rotate around that point.

Sorry for not being clear enuf. What I wanted to do is for the clip to move from left to right as it spins.

But what I got is that it spins without moving from left to right.

Thanks

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May 28, 2009 7:23 AM in response to RyanManUtd

RyanManUtd wrote:
But what I got is that it spins without moving from left to right.

Hi(Bonjour)!

Once the spinning effect is done in filter tab (BAsic 3D filter), open the motion tab and put some keyframes in the center point (look in User manual from page 729- for FCE4.0 version).

Michel Boissonneault

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RyanManUtd Author

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May 28, 2009 9:30 AM in response to Michel Boissonneault

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Hi(Bonjour)!

Once the spinning effect is done in filter tab (BAsic 3D filter), open the motion tab and put some keyframes in the center point (look in User manual from page 729- for FCE4.0 version).

Thanks Michel Boissonneault, your suggestion is spot on !!

Yes, so it is a two step process, do the spinning first then do the moving !!

Excellent !

Thanks

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Tom Wolsky

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May 28, 2009 10:21 AM in response to RyanManUtd

You shouldn't animate this in the motion tab. Animate the Center value in the Basic 3D filter. Click the crosshair button to position the clip.

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RyanManUtd Author

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May 29, 2009 8:48 AM in response to Tom Wolsky

Tom Wolsky wrote:
You shouldn't animate this in the motion tab. Animate the Center value in the Basic 3D filter. Click the crosshair button to position the clip.

Thanks Tom,

But how do we know when to animate from motion tab & when to animate from the filters ?

Is there a general rule of thumb or is it purely from experience ?

Thanks

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Answer 11

Tom Wolsky

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May 29, 2009 8:53 AM in response to RyanManUtd

If the filter or generator has motion controls always animate motion properties there, never in the clip's motion tab.

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RyanManUtd Author

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May 29, 2009 9:14 AM in response to Tom Wolsky

Tom Wolsky wrote:
If the filter or generator has motion controls always animate motion properties there, never in the clip's motion tab.

Thanks Tom for the useful tips. Will try to remember that !

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