Is my Mac Pro 2009 unable to burn Cd masters?

I posted in Waveburner Forum because I thought it was an WaveBurner problem.
Now it seems to be a problem of the Cd burner.
It needs to be able to burn Disk-At-Once to make a cd master. (Red Book Standard). The info of my Cd-writer says says it is not possible?

Mac Pro 2009, Mac OS X (10.5.7), Logic 8.0.2

Posted on Jun 18, 2009 1:55 PM

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Jun 19, 2009 2:26 AM in response to a brody

Thanks for the reply.

WaveBurner (Logic Studio) is supposed to burn cd masters. So it must support DAO. I did a DAO burn in Bootcamp in my old Windows Cd mastering program. No luck. There is a loud pop at the end of the cd, I suppose because de cd burner doesnot support DAO.
When I use the same program in my old Windoes PC everything is o.k.

Jun 19, 2009 9:10 AM in response to EdHart

WaveBurner (Logic Studio) is supposed to burn cd masters. So it must support DAO.


Why must it? DAO is a feature that allows for multiple rewrites making a CD like a hard drive. The only multi-rewrite ability Macs have with CDs are the following with these kind of media:

CD-R - multisession buring. Meaning you can burn one session, which is permanently engrained, and an additional session can be added to existing empty space.

CD-RW - multisession and total rewrite. You can erase the entire disk and burn again.

DVD-RAM - Like a hard drive, you can rewrite any section of the disc.

DVD-RW, and DVD-R have comparable features except more space than CD-RW and

CD-R respectively.

Magneto optical - never offered as a built-in option, only available third party, supports special discs with DVD-RAM like features.

DAO from what I've read before on the forum enables DVD-RAM like features for CD-R discs. It is this feature that no Mac OS X application that I've seen actually supports.

Why DAO was never included with Mac OS X I don't know, but you can always submit feedback asking for it:

http://www.apple.com/feedback/

Jun 19, 2009 12:27 PM in response to a brody

DAO (disc-at-once) has nothing at all to do with the capability of rewriting discs or treating it like a hard drive. It has to do with burning the disc in a single pass, rather than one track at a time (track-at-once or TAO). This allows any amount of audio data, or no data at all (i.e gapless) to be written in the "pre-gaps" between tracks. If the laser is turned off in the mastering of the CD, it is not Red Book standard. It has to be a single pass burn.

Jun 19, 2009 12:43 PM in response to Jonathan Christensen

The master cd I try to burn has to be The Red Book Standard, so I can let them get multiplied in the cd factory. (Sorry, English is not my native language).

The cd/dvd writer is: HL-DT-ST DVD-RW GH41N. Write Strategies:CD-TAO, CD-SAO, CD-Raw, DVD-DAO.

Yes, I am shocked that Apple would supply a Mac Pro with an optical drive that can't do a simple DAO burn.

Jul 29, 2009 1:06 AM in response to EdHart

I replied in the WaveBurner forum, but it seems not to be a WaveBurner problem.

I did some burning tests see:
http://www.soundonsound.com/forum/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=745387&page=1&view=co llapsed&sb=5&o=365&fpart=1#745387

For now, I come to the conclusion the Dvd/Cd writer in Mac Pro 2009 gives a loud pop at the end of a DAO-burned cd master, when text en Isrc is checked in WaveBurner. Unchecked the pop is gone.
It has nothing to do WaveBurner itself, because it also happens in Bootcamp with another mastering program.

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