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iTunes and unexplained CPU heat???

Hello,

It's become quite obvious to me that iTunes is causing an insane increase in CPU temperature, without causing an equivalent increase in CPU useage (CPU average stays roughly identical).

Right now with this Mac and OS, my up-to-date iTunes causes my CPU temp to go up between 15-20 degrees celcius in about 1 minute or two. Quitting iTunes results in normal temperatures after 2-3 minutes.

Can anyone tell me why???

Thanks

Message was edited by: Loa

Message was edited by: Loa

2.66 Nehalem Quad (8GB, 3TB, 120GT), MacBook (2.0), iBook dual USB, Mac OS X (10.5.7)

Posted on Jul 23, 2009 12:36 PM

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Jul 25, 2009 8:35 AM in response to Samsara

CHUD was popular on G5s for various reasons, to 'nap' a processor, to disable a cpu or core (helpful if debugging a cpu kernel panic). It is safe to install,, and you will find it on any system with Xcode.

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DESCRIPTION The Computer Hardware Understanding Developer Tools (CHUD Tools) are designed to help hardware and software developers measure and optimize the performance of Macintosh systems running their products under Mac OS X. All of the CHUD tools fully support the latest in Macintosh hardware and software.

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... ran into this: +extend the life of SSDs by disabling indexing+

Another key part of the performance and responsiveness was our collaboration to optimize Intel Solid State Drive technology for Windows 7

A feature called SMT parking allows Windows 7 to take advantage of Intel hyperthreading technology for "better performance on hyperthreaded, multicore Intel processors," wrote Joakim Lialias, an Intel alliance manager, in a blog entry on Microsoft's Web site that was posted late Wednesday.

Apple has changed the basic architecture of its upcoming Mac OS X 10.6 OS, code-named Snow Leopard, by introducing new features that tap into the processing power of multiple CPU and graphics cores. A number of enhancements allow the OS to divvy up tasks for simultaneous execution across cores.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/168969/microsoftintel_design_windows_7_to_bespeedy.html

Jul 25, 2009 8:50 AM in response to The hatter

I've "delved" into xcode a few times, but only used it once via good advice from Francine on how to locate and delete a wallpaper that kept showing up mysteriously. I'm not sure if I have it on this one or not, I don't think so, I tried to keep the install very lean. But like Terminal which still makes me very uneasy to use, xcode was something I feared messing with. I should have on my G5s I guess, I would be familiar with it now.

Excellent to hear that about SL. I'm pinning a lot on a 25 dollar upgrade.

Turning off indexing... forgive my ignorance but we, Macs, can do that too, right?

Jul 25, 2009 10:00 AM in response to The hatter

Low and behold, just launching AfterEffects brings my CPU Temps into the middle 80s with one stuck at 92.
Wait a minute... lol, having launched Mail and Safari too, all the temps are dropping again... now with AE still open the temps have dropped to the high 50s.

Ok, so launching AE apparently caused the temps to spike but they settle down after a few minutes. I'll see what happens when I render.
I'm not going to pursue this much more, just wanted to see what a heavy hitter would do.

Jul 25, 2009 10:11 AM in response to The hatter

Nothing to fear, they say, but fear itself. Yes?

Um,... if it's not broke, don't fix it? I'm still trying to tell if this particular situation regarding temps is aberrant or not.
And SMC Fan Control is still not recommended, is that correct?
I know that has nothing to do with chud or xcode, but with this it seems an option, though not one I was advised to try.

Anyway you win, I'm already a member, I'll download xcode and see what I'm missing. Too persuasive, Hatter, too too, lol. 🙂

Edit: Or should I be downloading chud as well. Yes, I believe so.

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Jul 25, 2009 2:34 PM in response to The hatter

Before I got my Mac Pro, Mini and iMac I used an old MSI laptop with Leopard (I know, not legal, but I made up for it, didn't I? Ordered a MBPro now, too, so I have one Mac out of every line..).

Anyway, Leopard didn't support fan-control and speedstep on that machine. Every time the temperature of the Core2Duo 1.83Ghz CPU in that thing came above 93 degrees celcius it would instantly power down.

Jul 28, 2009 9:57 AM in response to Samsara

Hello,

Sorry for the advil Samsara! 🙂

Broader question: I get that iTunes is (could be?) not optimized for Nehalem. What I don't understand is how we could get the processors running so much hotter without having them working harder.

I use menumeters to know just how "hard" my cores (hyper threads, actually, as I have 8 values for my quad) are running. Starting iTunes doesn't even register because it's insignificant.

Why is that insigificant load rising temps???

Loa

Jul 28, 2009 10:23 AM in response to Loa

Hi Loa,

After that I needed oxycontin anyway, so don't worry about it. 😉

Others here will be able to give you answers to that because I just don't now. It seems to me, like my excessive amount of RAM, that almost nothing puts much of a strain on the processors. I really don't get it at all.
I've used Activity Monitor with a few apps and it just shows a very mellow,... oh too weird... I just opened itunes and started playing a song and AM showed nothing, absolutely no activity for the CPUs.
I am awake, aren't I? Coffee! Qualudes! Morphine! Crackerjacks!

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