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Is Logic 9 still missing professional features?

I'm curious, does the new logic have:

1. Envelopes on individual events
2. 32bit export
3. better midi (more than 16 at a time)
4. MIDI plugins (Are there MIDI AU plugins yet? Cubase has MIDI VST plugins.)
5. the ability to run muli-channel plugins, such as the B4 organ or multi-channel samplers

These are some of the capabilities Cubase has, but Logic "pro" 8 did not. Does the new version of Logic have any of these?
I am not being negative. I simply don't have the time to do the research. If Logic finally has these capabilities now, I would consider switching back. Did they finally give us those things, or just more eye-candy and garage-band features we didn't ask for.

Thanks.

core2Quad Q9550, Gigabyte MOBO, Focusrite Saffire, also AGP G4, eMac, 70s SVT & SuperLead, Mac OS X (10.5.7), Cubase LE4, Cubase SE3, Logic "pro" 8

Posted on Jul 24, 2009 7:40 PM

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noeqplease

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Posted on Jul 24, 2009 8:10 PM

macmusic47 wrote:
I'm curious, does the new logic have:

1. Envelopes on individual events
2. 32bit export
3. better midi (more than 16 at a time)
4. MIDI plugins (Are there MIDI AU plugins yet? Cubase has MIDI VST plugins.)
5. the ability to run muli-channel plugins, such as the B4 organ or multi-channel samplers

These are some of the capabilities Cubase has, but Logic "pro" 8 did not. Does the new version of Logic have any of these?
I am not being negative. I simply don't have the time to do the research. If Logic finally has these capabilities now, I would consider switching back. Did they finally give us those things, or just more eye-candy and garage-band features we didn't ask for.

Thanks.

1.- I have no clue what that is. Do you mean an ADSR - type envelope? Or Cellophane?

2.- And what are you going to import into? I am unaware of any consumer product using 32 bit files.

3.- You can use more than 16 at a time, if you have the brains to use more MIDI ports. MIDI implementation has only ever allowed up to 16 channels per physical Port / Virtual instrument. It is a limitation or the MIDI spec, not Logic.

4.- If you mean the old style chorus / reverb / delay, etc, they are there, in the MIDI mixer. Just consult the manual for that. Most AU plugins accept and can read back MIDI automation easily, Logic now has a "MIDI learn" feature so you can turn a knob / slider, and assign it to whatever plug-in's control you need to tweak. Pretty basic, really.

5.- This has been around since version 6, in some form. Of course, the plug-in has to be multi channel for this to work properly. And you do have to set it up properly too.

Cheers

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Oct 1, 2009 8:15 AM in response to macmusic47

macmusic47 wrote:
If you export a file to process in Peak, or some other program, you are actually downsampling to 24 bit, and should probably use some sort of dithering. Then, the program will again process in 32 Bit, and downsample again to 24 bit. So that Logic can open the file. Again, you are dithering. Upsampling and downsampling.

You're not really resampling when you change bit depth, you are just losing and adding digits.

And since 24 bit audio has a 144db dynamic range, it doesn't really matter if you dither coming down from 32 bit or not, you'll never hear the difference either way. You really think 144db isn't enough dynamic range so you need 192db? Just because a program provides more bits doesn't mean they are going to provide an improvment that anyone can actually hear.

I'm glad to see that logic has added a gain parameter (anyone know if Pro Tools added this at some point?), it would be nice to have pan there as well.

I'd love to see midi plugins (arpeggiator etc).

Oct 1, 2009 12:42 PM in response to davidmesiha

Thanks,

those two cents do sum up in a way that I decided to buy nuendo to save the money logic costs me with time consuming workarounds.

Cheers Eddie

chucknkd

Level 1

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Oct 2, 2009 9:41 AM in response to macmusic47

macmusic47 wrote:
Unless somebody can show me a way to drag handles directly on the timeline, then Cubase is clearly easier and faster to use.

this feature has been added to L9, just place your cursor around the top right or left of any region and youll get a fade 'handle' that you can drag, just make sure you have your 'selection' tool (arrow) selected or this wont happen.

Is Logic 9 still missing professional features?