Header and Footer on only the first page.

PeterBreis0807 wrote:
Karen,

You have 2 choices.

If you do this in *Word Processing* mode, use the headers footers etc, then add a section break at the end of the page ( +Menu > Insert > Section Break+ ). In the new section on the subsequent pages simply uncheck headers and footers in the Inspector.

One more time you are wrong 😉
The existence of footer/header is a global document property.
If you have one of them in first page, you have it also in other pages. You just may leave it empty.
This is why the correct response to the OP is: when you need footer/header only on the first page, don't use the header/footer feature, use text boxes 😉

Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE vendredi 31 juillet 2009 09:21:40)

Karen,

First Page is Different applies to the Headers and Footers. What you need to do is to Insert > Layout Break at the end of your first page, just before your Page Break. Every time you want to change the number of columns, change the margins, etc., Insert > Layout Break.

Regards,

Jerry

If you want a header and footer on just the first page, then there's no need to use a header or a footer. They're designed to carry the same information on to subsequent pages. Just use text boxes, one at the top and one at the bottom of page one.

Walt

Karen,

You have 2 choices.

If you do this in *Word Processing* mode, use the headers footers etc, then add a section break at the end of the page ( +Menu > Insert > Section Break+ ). In the new section on the subsequent pages simply uncheck headers and footers in the Inspector.

Using *Page Layout* mode, create a page with text boxes for the 1st page and copy it to make the subsequent pages but eliminate the pieces you don't want. Capture the pages to use as templates.

Peter

If you already have something in the header and then change in Layout inspector > Sections > First page is different, the header on the first page gets empty but keeps it content in subsequently pages

Solution: After clicking on First page different go to the second page Cut out the header content and paste it in the header of the first page

No need for text box or section break.

fruhulda,

The OP doesn't need headers and footers, just text and/or object at the top and bottom the first page. There is no need to get into the mechanics of producing headers and footers that won't be used. If you don't need something on more than one page, KISS. (Keep It Simple, Sweetie.)

Walt

fruhulda wrote:
I might be mixing something up here. Easily done when readin several threads. But anyway it is still the first page getting the header and footer is so chosen or different from first to second page.

Have you tested?

If there is a footer in page 1 there is a footer in EVERY pages.
If may be blank but it will exists.

As far as I know, the contents of header/footer may be specific to sections or to 1st page in a section
but
existence of header/footer is a global document's property.

Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE vendredi 31 juillet 2009 23:33:17)

I repeat:

we can't have pages 2 and higher without header/footer if we have one on page 1.

In this case, we may only have, on page 2 an higher, header and footer existing with a blank contents. Which is not the same thing than no header/footer.

In the past I have always done the first page separate because _it is the only page with a header and footer._ How can I do it all in document? I am reading the help guide, checked first page is different but still no luck. I only want two columns on the rest of the newsletter. The front page will have header, footer, and then two columns of print.

The soluce is absolutely no header/footer.
A text box in page 1 for 'pseudo' header
a text box in page 1 for 'pseudo' footer
a layout breaks, so that the first page may be set in two columns layout.

Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE samedi 1 août 2009 11:11:25)

Yvan, you are twisting it. The OP hasn't asked for the second page start on number one!!!!!! I understand it that it is only the first page that should have header and footer. I presume she already had "activated" the header and footer with text and numbers on all pages and can't find out how to get rid of it from page 2 an onwards.

The OP hasn't asked for the second page start on number one!!!!!!

It seems that you didn't understand what I wrote.

I never wrote about page numbering.

The title and the question are clear.
The OP want header and footer on page 1 . He doesn't want them on other pages.

I repeat that this can't be achieved using header/footer feature.

If a footer is available on page 1, it is available on every pages.
The contents may be changed (even be nothing) but the footer will exist.


In this first example, I defined header and footer in page 1.
Even setting 'page 1 is different", you may see that the header/footer items are available in Page 2.
I reduced their height but they are here and behave as limits for the main text layer.



In this second example I removed the header/footer from page 1.

All settings remains the same.

You may see that, on page 2, as there is no header the top & bottom limits used by the main text layer is different allowing more lines on the page.

The sample files are available in my iDisk:
<http://idisk.me.com/koenigyvan-Public?view=web>

For_iWork:about Headers.zip

Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE samedi 1 août 2009 14:53:55)

KOENIG Yvan wrote:

The OP hasn't asked for the second page start on number one!!!!!!

It seems that you didn't understand what I wrote.

No, as you are not clear about it. In my world when you don't see anything in the footer there isn't any footer even if the application gives you a possibility to put something there.

The title and the question are clear.
The OP want header and footer on page 1 . He doesn't want them on other pages.

I repeat that this can't be achieved using header/footer feature.

If a footer is available on page 1, it is available on every pages.

Yes, available is the word. See above!! I think most people react as I do.

The contents may be changed (even be nothing) but the footer will exist.

In this first example, I defined header and footer in page 1.
Even setting 'page 1 is different", you may see that the header/footer items are available in Page 2.
I reduced their height but they are here and behave as limits for the main text layer.

Do you really think that this is the problem for the OP?? Do you think that the OP wants the text so far out to the bottom edge?

Hopefully Karen pops in and tells us more specifically what she wants and what solution suites her best!

fruhulda wrote:

KOENIG Yvan wrote:

The OP hasn't asked for the second page start on number one!!!!!!

It seems that you didn't understand what I wrote.

No, as you are not clear about it. In my world when you don't see anything in the footer there isn't any footer even if the application gives you a possibility to put something there.

I apologize, _an empty footer is a footer_ as well as _an empty string is a string_ .
If you store an empty string in a cell, it's no longer empty and ISBLANK() returns FALSE.

The empty but existing footer header is a problem as far as we want to use a large area of the sheet.

Of course only the OP knows if he want stricto-sensu "no header/footer" or if having invisible ones is satisfying.

Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE samedi 1 août 2009 16:18:04)

Hi fruhalda.

The problem is the opposite:

header/footer needed on first page, unneeded on others !

Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE vendredi 31 juillet 2009 23:03:32)

I might be mixing something up here. Easily done when readin several threads. But anyway it is still the first page getting the header and footer is so chosen or different from first to second page.

Right, but what is KISS is up to OP! She talkes about header and footer!