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Importing an album into ITunes

I have imported an album into I-tunes which I will sync with my Ipod Touch. The only problem being, is that when I view the album in the music library, all the songs are separate songs and not all stored under the album. I have imported other albums and they are fine. Any ideas? (The album is made up of 4 CDs, I don't know if this affecting it?)

Posted on Jul 30, 2009 1:10 PM

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Posted on Jul 30, 2009 2:48 PM

*HowTo: Grouping Tracks Into Albums*
Excuse the long post, but hopefully covering all the bases (that I can think of) will help you fix the other issues you are likely to run into as you try to organise your iTunes library.

*Use an album friendly view*
iTunes will let you sort music on many columns, some of which are unlikely to group albums together or put the tracks in their normal order. The most useful order for editing the library is probably *Album by Artist*. If you're not already there, select the list view and click on the column heading for Album until it reads Album by Artist.

*One cover, too many tracks*
The iPod (and iTunes to a lesser extent) conflates two or more albums with the same title, most obviously with *Greatest Hits*. On the iPod this can result in one album acting as a combination of two or more. Selecting any cover gives all the tracks of all albums with the same title. The workaround for this "Greatest Hits" bug is to give each album a unique title - I tend to go for *Album - Album Artist* as this reads clearly in the iTunes browser. Alternatively you could use the wording as it appears on the cover or append different numbers of spaces for each different album. Somewhat oddly, setting different values for Sort Album doesn't work.

*Missing Artist or Album not with others by same artist*
iTunes relies on the Gracenote CDDB database when identifying CD's. This often marks collections or anthologies of an artist's work as a compilation. In iTunes, however, the compilation flag has the logical function of grouping together tracks with the same album name, but different artists on each track, e.g. "Now That's What I Call Metal 666!". These compilations are then all grouped together at the end of cover flow. Most of us however, would expect "Greatest Hits" albums to be listed with the other albums by the same album artist. For albums which are essentially by a single album artist or group it is best to set the appropriate value for the album artist and clear the compilation flag.

*One album, too many covers*
For true compilations, where each track is by a different artist, the answer is to set the compilation flag to true and enable the iTunes preference to *Group compilations when browsing*. If the album is not a compilation however, any tracks which list guest artists may be treated as separate items. Filling in the Album Artist field is enough to link things in iTunes. Sadly, however, the iPod ignores the Album Artist field when grouping albums so this is only a partial solution. You can simply mark the entire album as a compilation which seems to be the way iTMS handles it, however that's not an ideal fix. Short of waiting for Apple to address this issue (and as far as I can tell it goes back to the 1st gen. of iPods) we need a workaround. What I do is to put any additional artist info. in square brackets after the song name. E.g. *Track \[Feat. Guest\]* and then set *Artist=Album Artist* for each track. For anthologies where the Album Artist is credited as part of another group, e.g. for Cream tracks on an Eric Clapton anthology, I use *Track \[As Group\]*. For a track where the main Album Artist doesn't receive a credit, e.g. the first track of the Slim Shady LP credited to Jeff Bass, I just set the track name to *Track \[Guest\]* while still setting the artist to the album artist. N.b. I use square brackets to indicate that this is information about the track as distinct from the song title and also use this style for Mix/Live/Bonus info.

Addendum: I don't own an iPhone or iPod Touch to check but I'm told that with the V3.x firmware these now group tracks on the value of Album Artist in a logical fashion.

*One album, still too many covers*
iTunes may split albums into two or more sections if some tracks from the album have different values for Artist, Album Artist, Album, No. of Discs or Part of a Compilation. Tiny differences such as trailing spaces, accented characters or variants of symbols can sometimes be quite hard to spot. The iPod is also more sensitive to case variations and may split or reorder an album that looks okay in iTunes. Normally overtyping the desired value for each shared field will complete the grouping of the album into one entity. Occasionally, however, this method seems to fail. When this happens I've found that you can force every field to update properly by adding some extra text - e.g. a trailing X, which once applied seems to complete the joining of the tracks into one album. Once this has happened the extra data can be removed and the album should remain properly grouped.

*Tried that, there are STILL too many covers!*
The Sort Artist, Sort Album & Sort Album Artist fields can be used to override the normal sort order. For example iTunes automatically drops leading articles (a/an/the) so "The Beatles" are arranged under "B" instead of "T". Occasionally different tracks from the same album can have different values in these sort fields which can also break up the grouping. Making the sort columns visible in iTunes can help with spotting & correcting such problems.

*One cover for multi-disc album*
Multi-disc albums are often listed as *Album (CD1)* for CD 1, *Album (CD2)* for CD 2 etc. To display these properly using just one cover, each disc should have the correct *Disc X of Y* values set, and then the entire album should be given the single title Album. Being somewhat obsessive I also renumber the tracks sequentially, working backwards from the last track (so that no two tracks ever have the same number) until I reach disc 1. BTW You can still give the individual discs different artwork should it be relevant so that the correct artwork will be displayed as the album progresses.

*Tracks out of sequence*
Check that all tracks have the same/correct disc no. For a single disc album this should be either blank (my preference) or 1 of 1. iTunes will sort tracks with a disc no. of 1 before those that are blank. Just for fun the iPod sorts them the other way around. In addition ensure that the Artist, Album Artist, Album, Sort Artist, Sort Album Artist & Sort Album fields are consistent across all tracks.

*One artist, many names*
With some artists, particularly classical composers, you should be aware of alternative representations of their names. E.g. 2Pac vs. Tupac. The menus will work best if for each artist you standardise on just one form of their name. E.g. make a choice between Mozart, W.A. Mozart or Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, and then apply it consistently. For classical music I tend also to use the Composer as the Artist & Album Artist and either discard the performer details or place these into the Comments field. The Sort Artist/Sort Album Artist fields can group alternate forms in iTunes but these will break up again on the iPod. It is best therefore to use Artist & Album Artist consistently so the name is shown the way that you want and Sort Artist & Sort Album Artist to control where it is displayed.

Addendum: Again I don't own an iPhone or iPod Touch to check but I'm told that with in the V3.x firmware the system fails to pick up on the Sort Album Artist value and sorts albums in Cover Flow by Album Artist instead.

tt2
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Dec 3, 2009 12:07 AM in response to turingtest2

Try changing the track total per DISC: Track 1 on disc 1 is 1 of 9 instead of 1 of 18, etc. I think iTunes treats one disc as one album. What is shown in the picture is two discs with 9 total tracks each, not 18 but the track # indicates 18 on each disc.

I have several multi-disc albums and box sets and I treat each disc as a separate album and the artwork displays correctly. But I don't have one master artwork for my box sets-each disc has its own artwork-and the album discs have the same artwork.

Tracy

Dec 3, 2009 1:26 AM in response to Tracy Reynolds

You're missing the point. I (and many others) want my multi-cd albums to appear as a single large album with sequentially numbered tracks just as displayed. Likewise gidiav__ wants his 5 album box set to appear under just one cover. His issue was over which artwork was displayed if he made a playlist containing, for example, album 5 from this set. My response was that iTunes will display the art attached to the first track of the first album of the set in the grid & coverflow and that, while not exactly what he wanted to hear, this was "normal" behaviour for iTunes. Please read his post & my replies again.

For multi-CD albums I think the format I illustrate above looks neatest. I first started digitising my music using Windows Media Player 6 which didn't have a disc number field so using sequential track numbers was required in order to join multi-CD albums into one logical unit. The iTunes & Amazon stores often, though not always, list albums this way too. There are certainly plenty of downloadable albums with bonus tracks that would not physically fit on a 74 or 80 min. CD that are not listed with multiple discs.

For box sets each user needs to decide on their own approach and it may depend on the precise nature of the set. Some obviously consist of a number of original albums packaged together in one box, others are a selection of studio and/or live recordings with no clear mapping to the released albums. In the former case I generally split the set into the constituent albums but that's just me...

tt2

Jan 5, 2010 7:26 AM in response to turingtest2

Many thanks for this helpful guidlines. Now I've learned there is nothing to do about the "one album - different artists" problem, but to set it as a compilation album. But it seems this creates another problem... The artists of a compilation album, don't seem to appear in the artist tab on an iPod. When I click Artists, in the iPod Menu, all artists appear, except for those who appear on a compilation album. Is there a way to fix this? Many thanks in advance

Jan 19, 2010 11:19 PM in response to mauw-gli

mauw-gli wrote:
Many thanks for this helpful guidlines. Now I've learned there is nothing to do about the "one album - different artists" problem, but to set it as a compilation album.

If it's a true compilation then yes, but if there is a main album artist plus guests then the method at One album, too many covers will work.
But it seems this creates another problem... The artists of a compilation album, don't seem to appear in the artist tab on an iPod. When I click Artists, in the iPod Menu, all artists appear, except for those who appear on a compilation album. Is there a way to fix this? Many thanks in advance.

If you want your iPod to list those artists who only appear on compilations uncheck the following options on the iPod:

Settings > Main Menu > Compilations
Settings > Music Menu > Compilations

tt2

Jan 19, 2010 11:31 PM in response to Snizzbut

Snizzbut wrote:
Please, please help. I bought an album with 2 discs and im trying to change it in itunes so it is one album ive changed the names of both to the album name instead of disc 1 and 2 and numbered all the songs as you said but its not working! it still has two seperate albums, but now with the same names.

Try One album, still too many covers and Tried that, there are STILL too many covers!.

tt2

Feb 15, 2010 7:50 PM in response to turingtest2

Let me add another solution to: ONE ALBUM TOO MANY COVERS:

You don't need to bother with Compilations nor do you need to Change the Artist name to match (losing Artist infor if artisits differ). I have many random tracks of say, BB King, with many differant artists accompanying him. I don't want to lose this info in the ARTISIT field but it creates an album cover for each one with differing Artist tagged. THE SOLUTION seems simple and since I dont care about Album Artwork it is perfect: Select all the songs, be sure the Album Name is the Same (of course) for all tracks then just add a mark (any character)in the Album Artwork field and it will force them all under one album cover. You can experiment but all other fields CAN differ such as Grenre, Comments, Composer etc. The only two that matter are Album and Album Artist they must be identical for each song you wish to have in the album. Thanks.

Feb 15, 2010 10:38 PM in response to grindstone2

grindstone2, you're making this too difficult. Just select all the items on a CD, right-click > Get Info, say yes to changing multiple items, and edit the *Album Artist* so they all match.
No need to edit the Artist track where "BB King feat Somebody" is stored.



The Artist field is NOT the same as *Album Artist* . Which is what turingtest's post said.

Feb 16, 2010 1:16 AM in response to grindstone2

grindstone2 wrote:
Let me add another solution to: ONE ALBUM TOO MANY COVERS:

You don't need to bother with Compilations nor do you need to Change the Artist name to match (losing Artist infor if artisits differ).

In my scheme the information is not lost but placed elsewhere.
I have many random tracks of say, BB King, with many differant artists accompanying him.

My post is about organising albums, not *random tracks*.
I don't want to lose this info in the ARTISIT field but it creates an album cover for each one with differing Artist tagged. THE SOLUTION seems simple and since I dont care about Album Artwork it is perfect:

However the aim of the post is to cater for those that *do care* about album artwork.
Select all the songs, be sure the Album Name is the Same (of course) for all tracks then just add a mark (any character)in the Album Artwork field and it will force them all under one album cover.

As Chris points out, this seems to be nonsense... you can't paste textual characters into a graphic field.
You can experiment but all other fields CAN differ such as Grenre, Comments, Composer etc. The only two that matter are Album and Album Artist they must be identical for each song you wish to have in the album.

Again, to reiterate, Artist must also be the same for each track *+in some models of iPod+*. To be precise it may not always be necessary to make this change as other factors have a bearing on whether listing the guest artists in the Artist field creates multiple covers, e.g. there being more than one album by the same album artist. However, adopting my suggested scheme means that you can be sure there won't be repeating covers regardless of which subset of your library you choose to sync to the device, nor, having once resolved such issues within your library, will it become disorganised later when you add more music. *Part of a compilation* must also be identical...

For what it's worth there's now a slightly updated version of the original article at http://www.samsoft.org.uk/iTunes/grouping.asp with extra graphics to illustrate some of the points & workarounds.

tt2

Feb 22, 2010 7:24 AM in response to turingtest2

Having trouble with trying to load Will the Circle Be Unbroken Vol II by Nitty Gritty Dirt Band..
Most tracks have guest artists and some have composer notes... I have edited the artist names and album name to read the same on all tracks, I have checked and unchecked the compilation box.. I have tried to delete the info from my Library and still the CD appears as about 6 different entries with same cover.. I am out of ideas

I will appreciate any help

Thanks

Jerry

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