Powerbook g4 boots to blank screen

After installing a 1gb stick of ram my computer will not boot. I've taken the ram out and replaced it with the existing 512mb sick i had in there and it still will not boot.

What happens: When I power up, I hear the startup "Chime" and but nothing is displayed on the lcd, not even an faint image.

What I've tried: I've tried replacing the ram, reseting the P Ram(no response), flushing the PMU(no reponse), Booting to the Tiger instalation disk(computer ate Cd, can't get it out, even when holding down the mouse button while it tries to "boot"), hooking up an external display (via dvi port).

I have access to another PB g4 (1.33 ghz). I took out my HDD and put it in the other computer and it boots fine, thus canceling out any HDD malfunctions. I've also tried the reverse but still no effect.

My Thoughts: I don't think it's the LCD inverter board since there's not even a faint image on the display. Since my computer doesn't seem to be responding to key strokes I think that maybe somehow the new stick of ram shorted out my Logic board.

Any thoughts/suggestions would be greately appreciated!

-Kevin

Powerbook G4 15" 1.5ghz, Mac OS X (10.4.11)

Posted on Aug 18, 2009 2:30 PM

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Aug 18, 2009 3:05 PM in response to KLaroche

Just to make sure... You reset the PMU in accordance with these guidelines:

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1431

To get the CD out try booting into Open Firmware:

Press the power button, when you hear the startup sound press and hold the Command-Option-O-F key combination, until you get the command line.

At the Open Firmware prompt, type: eject cd

While you are in Open Firmware try resetting NVRAM from here, with the following:

At the Open Firmware prompt, type: reset-nvram
Press Return.

At the Open Firmware prompt, type: reset-all
Press Return.

The computer should restart.

Aug 18, 2009 4:46 PM in response to KLaroche

Thanks for the quick reply. Yes I reset the PMU according to the specifications from apple. There's just one problem with booting into open firmware...my pb isn't responding to keystrokes. It's actually in peices right now. I'd have to put it back together to try(not that big of a deal). If that doesn't work would you think the logic board went bad? That's #1 on my list.

Thanks

Aug 18, 2009 6:21 PM in response to iyacyas

I tried booting without memory as well. Same results. The computer has NEVER given me a problem until now. I realize it's almost 5 years old, but I just can't believe this has happened virtually overnight. Although, I am a technician and see a lot of things like these. Pc's mostly. Does Apple, or a certified repair shop have anyway of testing the logic board if I bring it to them? I doubt it, but it's worth a shot.

Aug 19, 2009 10:00 AM in response to KLaroche

Regarding your stuck CD: If you have the machine in pieces, it's child's play to remove the few screws that secure the top cover of the optical drive and retrieve your disc manually. You won't do it any harm this way as long as you're reasonably gentle with it (unless, of course, it has already failed mechanically and one of its control or disc transport arms is in your way). I'm not a technician, and I've done this several times.

If you've already reassembled the machine, power it on while holding down the trackpad button; continue to hold the button until the disc pops out. This is a hardware command, executed before the OS begins to load. If the optical drive works and is getting power, your disc should be ejected. (But the command has to be routed through the logic board, so it's possible that a specific failure on the LB could prevent it from being carried out.)

There is no RAM on your Powerbook's logic board other than the two removable modules in their slots, so it's no surprise that you couldn't boot with those removed.

Have you tested the known-good 512MB RAM module in each of the two RAM slots? Lower RAM slot failures have been common in that Powerbook model. Upper RAM slot failures, while they've been very rare, can also occur. I'm not sure whether or not the PB would give its three-beeps-at-startup indication of "no good RAM" or its one-beep-at-startup indication of "no RAM found" if both of the slots themselves were bad. I tend to think it would do one or the other, but I don't know that.

A brand-new RAM module, assuming it was a suitable one for the computer in question, really couldn't have "shorted out the logic board" unless there was visible deformation of the contact pins in the module or the slot it was seated in, or it was inserted incorrectly.

Aug 19, 2009 11:45 AM in response to eww

Thanks for the response. I've tried to hold down the mouse button while boot up and that didn't work. I also tried holding down the eject button to no avail. Also, I've tried almost every combination of ram in the machine that I could think of, nothing works. My dead givaway is that the video on the LB is bad since I connected an external monitor to it and still got no display.

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