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Snow Leopard Unmitigated Disaster 4Me

I had highly anticipated Snow Leopard and bought the family pack soon after Apple opened. Installed it on my 13" MacBook Pro and it went well, lost RealPlayer and several other apps that need Rosetta but found equivalents. Had to make a lot of graphics adjustments and reset my internet connection but other then that was confident it would install nicely on my 3.2Ghz Mac Pro with 16 TB of HD space.

No way Jose. It totally mucked up my internet connection, replaced my desktop wallpaper, made my machine crawl and spin the beach ball with 16G of RAM and in short, was a disaster. I had made a carbon copy of 10.5.8 and returned it then tried the Snow Leopard install again. And again, an unmitigated disaster. Apple mucked up the Preview Tools, reducing them from those provided in 10.5.8 and that leaves me hanging because I rely on those tools to do my professional digital work. QuickPlayer 7 is ok but it isn't anything to write home about. I lost Explicit, which splits video precisely (frame by frame), RealPlayer plays audio only, no video and it was my default player relying on VLC to play anything that wouldn't play elsewhere. The dock shelf was back and had to be removed (no biggie but..).

All in all, I removed Snow Leopard. I rely on my Mac system for television, music, all my media, for video editing, transferring of files to/from the home office, the internet is primo and there wer/are either too many changes/alterations/losses that come with Snow Leopard or I'm just too set in my ways with Leopard.

I have four freakin' Macs and for now, the only one that has Snow Leopard on it (and I may remove it) is the MacBook Pro.

Sorry Gang - but you don't remove tried and true features (needed tools) or scale down needed tools when you offer an upgrade. I am so disappointed. All of my Mac friends are waiting for my stamp of approval because they too are set in their ways, used to using certain apps, and don't expect Snow Leopard (from all the hype) to slow their systems down or cause them undue hardships - and that's just what Snow Leopard has done for me. So I'm giving it a thumbs down for now.

Lisa

Mac Pro 3.2Ghz, MacBook Pro 2.53Ghz w/8G Ram, Mac OS X (10.5.8), iPhone 3GS 32G

Posted on Aug 29, 2009 11:43 AM

37 replies

Sep 1, 2009 5:44 PM in response to macnoel

macnoel wrote:
makes us all wonder about the idea of putting all the blame on Apple.

Well "they" did write the program and cause all this grief to their loyal customer base...

They do it all the time these days. They do it for profit and to try and kill the competition.

They did the same when they released the iPhone and the iPod touch.. They always cause havoc when they release anything new and expect people to "bear with us" for the next 3 to 6 months while they sort out the problems.

Oh but is this not in compliance with the rules?

oh dear

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Sep 1, 2009 5:48 PM in response to Lisa Garland

You updated a mission critical system without a software compatibility check?
oops...

Many times, the SBBOD on a new OS is the result of incompatible 3rd part plugins or drivers.
Sometimes, they may be things you installed and have since forgotten about.

I had a similar issue with 10.5. Come to find out, it was an way old DIVX plugin for QT.
It was PPC, and I had moved to an intel mac. I got away with that, but when I updated to 10.5 that one little plug in I forgot drove my system to it's knees.

I think LittleSnitch was another utility that killed some machines when 10.5 came out.

Explicit...is a 3rd party application. While most 3rd party apps are working well, older apps may or may not act correctly, and may need to be updated. What does Explicits web site say about 10.6 compatibility?

Should I be upset that Toast 5, which worked well under 10.5, doesn't work at all in 10.6?

To address some of your concerns:
Perian and flip4mac will allow QT to play just about any video format you may need. And they do work under 10.6.

If you did a clean install, then yep, your internet settings were defaulted to DHCP.
If you then used Migration assistant, but did not check the "machine settings" box, then your old settings were not restored. You should be able to rerun MA and select only machine settings, which I believe will fix it.

If you did an upgrade over 10.5.x, then your settings should not have changed.
That also applies to screen savers, etc.

Lisa4720>lost RealPlayer and several other apps that need Rosetta
Rosetta is available as part of a custom install. so is QT7. I don't understand how you got QT7 w/o rosetta. Either way, you can rerun the installer and add rosetta to the system.

Sep 1, 2009 5:55 PM in response to Wan Chai Man

They always cause havoc when they release anything new and expect people to "bear with us" for the next 3 to 6 months while they sort out the problems.

Did Apple break into your house and install Snow Leopard on your computer?

People have to take some responsibility for the possible ramifications of upgrading a system. Especially if your reliant on third party software and hardware.

For an enterprise running on Leopard, there is no reason for upgrading unless and until you've done your homework.

Really the first question you should ask yourself is "why do I need or why should I upgrade"?

Matt

Sep 2, 2009 6:08 AM in response to AJ

AJ said "If you did an upgrade over 10.5.x, then your settings should not have changed.
That also applies to screen savers, etc."

Sorry, nope. I did an upgrade with no issues yet lost my screen saver settings, power manager settings, and a few other odds and ends that I recall fixing since last Saturday. I fix them as I find them. These aren't major problems, just minor annoyances.

Sep 2, 2009 8:21 PM in response to spgarcia

Thank you so much. This fixed my nightmare.

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Sep 10, 2009 1:27 PM in response to Lisa Garland

"I'm not sure I sure what the one has to do with the other. Your system clearly has a problem that's been either triggered or exacerbated by the installation of SL."

What a bunch of BS! Reminds me of the old chestnut, "The customer is always wrong."

Nothing wrong with my system, bro. It was chugging along like a champ on 10.5, but now it's d.o.a. and I apparently have no recourse but to learn to live without my primary work tool until Apple fixes this disaster, if they ever do. When you have to tiptoe through your apps, trying to accomplish tidbits of work before it all crashes, clearly something is very wrong. I don't recall anything like this happening in previous Mac OS upgrades, and I have never before had any trouble with one. There's nothing wrong with my system, but there's definitely something wrong at Apple if they can create something like this. The word is leaking out, and I'm afraid to look my PC friends in the face.

Hey, when rock-solid apps like Photoshop and Illustrator can't be relied on, and when Apple's own apps crash, that qualifies as a disaster.

Lisa Garland Author

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Dec 6, 2010 10:20 AM in response to Lisa Garland

This was resolved.

Snow Leopard Unmitigated Disaster 4Me