Conversion of UNKNOWN files to mp3 or other readable format

After recording and saving my music to the desktop, I'm not able to open the files after storing them on a thumb drive. Also, if I email the files to myself, they won't open due to being UNKNOWN. I know there has to be something out there to fix this problem........HELP!

Older desktop, Mac OS 9.2.x, Using for recording studio/Digital Performer Software

Posted on Aug 31, 2009 7:37 AM

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Aug 31, 2009 12:15 PM in response to BC Wall

Hi, BC -

If the thumb drive is formatted as a PC (not Mac) volume, that could cause the problem. OS 9 uses File Type and Creator codes embedded in a file in order to determine which app to use to open the file (Creator code) and how the app should process it (Type code). All too often when a file is saved to a volume formatted as a PC volume, those codes are stripped off of the file.

Much of the time the result is an inconvenience - although the file won't open when double-clicked (because OS 9 can't idenitfy what it is), it will usually open when dropped onto the icon of an appropriate program. In this case, try dropping one of the files (or a copy of one - that's safer) onto the icon of QuickTime Player. If it opens and plays okay, if you have QT Pro then you may be able to use the Save As or Export function in QT Player's File menu to get an MP3 or .mov of it.

You can also try adding the File Type and Creator codes to the file. To do that, download the OS 9 version of FileBuddy. Drop a copy of one of the files onto FileBuddy's icon; a window showing a number of file characteristics will open. In the bottom center are two boxes, one labelled Type and the other labelled Creator. In the Type box enter Mp3 - note that there is a fourth character, a space, after the "3". In the Creator box enter TVOD. Save the window, and you should exit to the desktop. The file should now display a QT icon, and, if the changes worked, when you double-click it it should run as an Mp3 in QT Player.

Note - all File Type and Creator codes are case-sensitive; that is, attention must be paid to upper and lower case for each character. Also, all such codes are exactly 4 characters long, hence the need to add the space after the 3 in the Type code.

With FileBuddy you can easily create a droplet, a mini-app with a single purpose. In this case, after adding the codes but before clicking the Save button in FB's window, click the icon that looks like a water drop near the top center of its window. Follow the prompts to create a droplet. Place the droplet in a convenient place; any files dropped onto it will have their codes changed to the ones you entered. If you want to be able to process a folderful of files at a time, double-click the droplet, click the Configure button, then checkmark the "Modify items inside folders" item. Caution - once that is done, all files (regardless of what they may have been) which are in a folder dropped onto the droplet will have their codes changed to that of a QT Mp3 file.

Oct 13, 2009 3:23 PM in response to BC Wall

Sorry I haven't gotten back. Been on extended business trip. So the files did change to Quicktime, (mp3 format), however they won't play. Should I delete quick time pro and reload? I'm just about frustrated enough to throw the machine away and get a PC. I'm worried I may have lost about six months worth of recording studio data without any way of saving off the machine.

Oct 13, 2009 4:17 PM in response to BC Wall

So the files did change to Quicktime, (mp3 format), however they won't play.

But in your first post you only said:

After recording and saving my music to the desktop

And in your topic:

Conversion of unknown files

What program did you use to record the files? In what format did you save them? Was it mp3? You say in your subject these are "unknown" files and the problem is we are trying to tell the computer they are definitely mp3 which they might not be. That would confuse the computer.

Oct 16, 2009 11:35 PM in response to BC Wall

Some programs usually save files into a proprietary format that can only be read by that program. There may be an option to convert to other formats but for normal use it saves to the application's own format. You can change the type and creator codes for files in OS9 using special utilities so another application thinks it is a file it can understand but this only rarely works. For example, I have had files saved as Quicktime mov which were in reality mp3 files. I used a player that couldn't understand mov and it refused to play them. I changed the type code on the file to mp3 and they player said, "Hey, there's a mp3, I can play that." However, if I tell the player a Windows WMA files is a mp3 then it still won't be able to play it even though it thinks it can. this is why knowing the format is handy, otherwise you'd have to work your way through a lot of possibilities in the vague hope they might work. If it ends up being something only DP can understand then you have to use DP.

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Conversion of UNKNOWN files to mp3 or other readable format

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