Snow Leopard- Final Cut 5.1 HDV Capture

Well, you're out there on the bleeding edge. When 5.1 was released, the OS was Tiger. Dunno what the effects of SL will be. With luck someone else has ironed out the wrinkles.

Same here. Shot a nephews wedding on my CAnon Vixia HV30 in high definition. Now FCP 5.1 won't recognize the camera. Worked last weekend before I upgraded to snow leopard. Hmmm

Works with iMovieHD, but not with FCP5.1

Same for me too. I use an XHA1 and FCP 5.1. It all worked fine under Tiger but now with Snow Leopard installed I can't capture anything with FCP, despite trying several setups. However, it works fine with iMovieHD.

Has anyone yet found Canon capture problems with Snow Leopard and FCS 3?


Matt

Sort of an issue:
- I have an HV20, FCS3, and 10.6
- Device Control Preset set to Sony HDV FireWire
- simply pressing capture now with camera idle (not playing) in the Log and Capture window will eventually error out.
- if I start "playing" the video - either PLAY on the camcorder or PLAY in the preview window, then immediately press capture now, the clips are then captured and placed into the browser bin.

In other words, the Capture Now window is not able to control the camcorder directly.

I need to go back and check my Sony Deck and camcorder to see if capture is similar.

Message was edited by: LaCie FireWire

You should set the protocol to Firewire basic when working with Canon equipment.

Of course! My bad, but there is still a related issue with Canon.

After correcting my settings, and using FireWire Basic for the protocol, I was able to mark in/out points and capture clips consistently from the in to the out point. However, with the Canon, I could not go to the in or out points using the FCP controls. It would sometimes work, and sometimes continue past the in/out points and finally complain about timecode missing or breaks.

Took the same tape to my Sony GV-HD700 deck, and properly setting protocol to Sony HDV FireWire, and I got consistent results with in/out points; manually could advance to the in or out point, and clips were captured from in/out points reliably, too.

For the Capture Now to work, the tape has to be playing first on either the Canon or the Sony. No problem capturing the entire tape as AIC, 422, or HDV.

Still not working in FCP 5.4.1, works fine with iMovie so the cables appear to be ok. Here is what I did.

Saved the project, set the Easy Setup to

HDV 1080i60 Firewire Basic
Turn on Camera, start tape
File>Log and Capture
Get this: Unable to Initialize Capture Device

Works when you set the Capture Preset in Audio Video Settings to

HDV Apple Intermediate Codec - with this setting it recognizes the tape and starts the capture.

I am confused here, still think this is a Snow Leopard issue. I have not done that much HD stuff but have done it a few times and have not had this problem.

Jeff, I too think it's a Snow Leopard issue since the same problem is happening in this neck of the woods. We upgraded to Snow Leopard and now FCP 6 wont capture HDV. It'll only do it with the APple Intermediate Codec, so the current solution is to use Quicktime 7 unfortunately. But at least that still works. Perhaps a Snow Leopard update will fix this.

Tomorrow I am going to bring home one of the machines we use for FCP that is running Leopard and one that is running Tiger, see what results I get.

It appears I'm not alone in experiencing this issue.

I upgraded to 10.6 mid last week. I've experienced no problems except for this. Upon launching Final Cut Pro 6, the "Log and Capture" player does not recognize that my Canon HV30 is plugged in. I receive a standard message explaining that FCP is unable to initialize the device.

I've checked and re-checked to make sure this isn't a random glitch. I've tried virtually every power cycle combination possible and yet FCP will not recognize my camera.

System Profiler does show my camera plugged in and is able to identify the device as a Canon VIXIA HV30. I am able to view and record files using QuickTime 7, and, according to others on this forum, it appears that iMovie '09 will gladly accept my camera.

Is this some crazy incompatibility with Snow Leopard? Do I need to go buy Final Cut Studio 3? I'd LOVE a fix, considering I'm dead in the water at the moment.

Hate to sound like the snide guy who has "work to be done" but... I DO have paid projects that are going nowhere if I'm unable to capture video directly into FCP. Anyone have any solutions to keep me going in the mean time?

Another note: Avid Media Composer is also unable to capture footage through my camcorder. I doubt these issues are tied because Avid is able to control my device and view footage in real time from the camcorder.

Hopefully I've provided enough info to let the powers that be work their magic. Thanks in advance!

I've been looking at this thread for a while so I decided to do a test on my macbook pro, which has Snow Leopard and FCP 6.0.6 (I haven't upgraded my main production machine to Snow Leopard of course, far too early for that!)

Flawless capture of HDV and DV material via firewire from my Canon XH-A1 in two seperate tests (using the firewire basic protocols). No problems whatsoever.

So it's not a Snow Leopard problem -- or at least not a FCP 6.0.6 under Snow Leopard problem. It's not a XH-A1 problem either. Can't test FCP5 under SL unfortunately.

Must be something else. Do all the people having problems have Quicktime 7 installed (or the appropriate pre SL version of Quicktime for your version of FCP)? It should be in Applications>Utilities and is supposed to go there automatically when SL detects your FCP installation. My own SL install (which was an upgrade install, not a clean install) didn't detect FCP for some reason and I had to manually install QT7 from the install disk later; no problems with that either).

Hope this helps.

Message was edited by: Denis Murphy

Two things come to mind.

Some of us are running different versions of FCP, ex I am running 5.1.4

I have quicktime 7.6.3 in the utilities, but when I double click on a quicktime file I get version 10.0 (51)

What is the difference?

Two things come to mind.

Some of us are running different versions of FCP, ex I am running 5.1.4

Yep - that's why I specified that it's not a FCP 6.0.6 under SL problem.

I have quicktime 7.6.3 in the utilities, but when I double click on a quicktime file I get version 10.0 (51)

What is the difference?

To be honest, I have no clue how FCP interacts with Quicktime X, if it does at all (I suspect it doesn't).

Have you tried running the correct version of Quicktime for your version of FCP? If you're running FCP 5.1.4 you should be running Quicktime 7.1.6, according to this list.

Message was edited by: Denis Murphy

Denis Murphy wrote:
Flawless capture of HDV and DV material via firewire from my Canon XH-A1 in two seperate tests (using the firewire basic protocols). No problems whatsoever.

Although the XH-A1 is a different animal than the HV30, could it be possible that there's something different in the FW communication?

I know SL is new to the masses, but this problem doesn't seem to be as much widespread as it is a "select few" issue.

I'd be interested in getting ahold of an XH-A1 to test this theory (luckily I do actually have access to one for testing!)