My ears are ringing from blast of white noise from Logic 9

NEVER had this happen in Logic 8 (or any other software for that matter) on same hardware.. Not only can you not OPEN Logic 9 by clicking on a logic 9 file, SAVE in Logic 9 without it putting audio out of sync, now I discover you cannot RECORD for more than a few minutes without getting a blast of white noise. Seriously, my ears are still ringing 8 hours later from this noise. If they are still ringing Monday I am going to the hearing specialist and Apple WILL be paying the bill. I pray no serious damage has been done and that I will still be able to do mastering work. If I monitor through Logic, even at 128 the monitored audio will occasionally slip out of sync and there will be like a 2 second delay in the monitored audio, then eventually a deafening blast of white noise. To release software in this untested state is totally negligent, irresponsible and downright dangerous. Disgraceful.

Mac Pro 266 4 gig Ram - AMT8 - Tascam DM4800 with Firewire - Lots Of Guitars, Mac OS X (10.5.7), UAD 2 Card - M-Audio Keystation 88 Pro

Posted on Sep 4, 2009 2:13 PM

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Sep 7, 2009 3:55 AM in response to johnsct

I don't know if you guys are aware of this, but Soundtrack Pro had a very similar issue in the previous version. See this thread for details: http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1397960

I don't know if the problem described above is the same, but I experienced the noise blast with Soundtrack Pro a few times (once with headphones) and nearly lost my hearing because of it. This is a deadly serious issue, if we're talking about the same volume levels here...

Sep 20, 2009 6:47 PM in response to Bob Lyons

Bob Lyons wrote:
Anyway, I went back to work on my little project and within a couple of hours Logic was running SO SLOW it became unbearable. Over 5 seconds to zoom or change screen sets. Frustrating. Now I see a lot of people with the same problems talking about their equipment and wondering if they need to upgrade. I've got the best computer Apple makes. It's maxed out. And Logic just doesn't work any more. It's no longer a professional application. You can't open a recording studio and expect people to stand around waiting for you to get Logic to work. They've taken the Pro out of Logic. Too bad. I feel like I've wasted 3 years learning to use a DAW that is a joke. Maybe I've love it again tomorrow. For today, I've had enough!


Bob,

Don't know if you saw this, it's Bee Jays impression after attending "Logic Studio World Tour - London".

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2162084&tstart=225

pancenter-

Dec 2, 2009 9:10 AM in response to iSchwartz

Hi, iS:

Meanwhile, has anyone checked out the PDF I posted above and, if so, do you see any kind of pattern from that info?


Yes - I printed it out, and stared at it. There doesn't seem any discernible pattern; it's puzzling, as I thought it was a LP9 and/or 10.6 issue, but apparently not. Because the sample size is small, maybe as additionally posts are tallied, something will emerge, and maybe the percentage of 8.0.2 instances will shrink, but who knows?

I'm wondering if this is related to other reports of loud pops? Here are a couple of examples. Could this be the same problem, but a less severe version?

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=10622739&#10622739
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2251601&tstart=0

Apr 27, 2010 12:16 PM in response to JofishSamuel

+Wakey wakey!+ This is NOT the customer service department. Moderators do not take part in the discussion here. We're all just Logic users. Go here:
http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=1076

The fact that this topic is still alive is a sign that this issue is taken seriously. The fact that you don't have this issue but keep going on about it is not helpful to any other user. In fact, it is rather annoying.

May 27, 2010 7:26 PM in response to byzantine

Isn't this topic similar to this topic?:

"Just to clarify, for myself and others reading.. you mention that iTunes, DVD and online Audio works fine under similar circumstances. Is this true even when Logic audio ouput is crackling? Let's say you're having the issue with Logic, hit stop on the transport, minimize Logic, open iTunes (or DVD/online audio), is the crackling still present. If not, then you can pretty much take MOTU out of the equation. You will have to leave the MOTU units set as the default output."

Playback Distortion With MOTU 828mkII And Intel Mac Compatible Drivers @
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2442837&tstart=0

May 28, 2010 4:25 PM in response to byzantine

Please take a look at this thread. I can not even pinpoint the the problem I am having with playback distortion with Logic Pro And MOTU Intel Mac Compatible drivers. According to Pancenter "Just to clarify, for myself and others reading.. you mention that iTunes, DVD and online Audio works fine under similar circumstances. Is this true even when Logic audio ouput is crackling? Let's say you're having the issue with Logic, hit stop on the transport, minimize Logic, open iTunes (or DVD/online audio), is the crackling still present. If not, then you can pretty much take MOTU out of the equation. You will have to leave the MOTU units set as the default output." This is actually not even the case from all my troubleshooting. This is very concerning as an audio professional as concerning as could be for my precious hearing, especially VIP artisist and clients. Is professional audio defined as playback distortion with Logic Pro And MOTU Intel Mac Compatible drivers + My ears are ringing from blast of white noise from Logic 9 = anything close to professional audio from Apple Logic Professional.....? A lawsuit against Apple Corp. is all that will make any difference whatsoever.

"Playback Distortion With Logic Pro And MOTU Intel Mac Compatible Drivers" @
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2442837&tstart=0

Thank you.

Sep 4, 2009 3:50 PM in response to chucknkd

chucknkd00 wrote:
had this happen yesterday. at least we could SEE it in the waveform and turned down to check it. no reason at all to get it, but it just decided to do it.
BTW, i used to have this happen to me in L7 and L8 sporadically after a few mins of recording on the same track, never did understand the reason behind it.


Right, it's not new to Logic 9.

I always thought this may happen when either... (pick one or any combination thereof)

1. A drive was asleep (not necessarily the recording drive) and wakes up.
2. The OS starts writing a swap file to the system drive.
3. Journaling kicks in to record changes in the disk structure.

I turn Journaling off on any audio drives.

pancenter-

Sep 6, 2009 6:22 AM in response to cigame2

cigame2 :- I have all the latest updates for my software and hardware. Unfortunately, using the onboard 2 channel input on my Mac pro isn't an option for a Recording Studio 😉. As I stated, it has only happened since installing logic 9. Contrary to your advice, installing Apples latest software has caused the problem, they are responsible. Was not using any 3rd party plugins when the blasts occurred, it was a new project using only apple software. If Logic Pro is only now compatible with their craptastic onboard soundcards, they need to say this, so no professional users waste their money on it thinking it is suitable for professional use.

Sep 6, 2009 7:17 AM in response to Mr Pandamonium

all i can say is that im having blasts of white noise every once in a while. i think i've had logic9 give me it 3 times now.

i think at least two of those instances have been: playback on, instrument or audio input playing sound, adding some volume to a new bus to have it play too, and adding an audiounit effect to that bus. especially AU fusion field by quikquak is one such one. i'd be well keen to not having any of these kinds of things, but i'll just have to wait innit until im either deaf or apple do something about this. very saddened (a logic5.5.1 -> logic9 pc->osx mover)

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