My ears are ringing from blast of white noise from Logic 9

NEVER had this happen in Logic 8 (or any other software for that matter) on same hardware.. Not only can you not OPEN Logic 9 by clicking on a logic 9 file, SAVE in Logic 9 without it putting audio out of sync, now I discover you cannot RECORD for more than a few minutes without getting a blast of white noise. Seriously, my ears are still ringing 8 hours later from this noise. If they are still ringing Monday I am going to the hearing specialist and Apple WILL be paying the bill. I pray no serious damage has been done and that I will still be able to do mastering work. If I monitor through Logic, even at 128 the monitored audio will occasionally slip out of sync and there will be like a 2 second delay in the monitored audio, then eventually a deafening blast of white noise. To release software in this untested state is totally negligent, irresponsible and downright dangerous. Disgraceful.

Mac Pro 266 4 gig Ram - AMT8 - Tascam DM4800 with Firewire - Lots Of Guitars, Mac OS X (10.5.7), UAD 2 Card - M-Audio Keystation 88 Pro

Posted on Sep 4, 2009 2:13 PM

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Sep 7, 2009 12:34 AM in response to Mr Pandamonium

This has nothing to do with moving or muting plugins. It's happened to me over the years in Logic 8 (only when overdubing and only hearable on playback, not while recording) and now 9 with a clean install (while recording), no third party plugs, and one or more audio tracks in record. I had this happen in a session with logic 9. The band ripped their headphones off, it was that loud. I went back to 8 to complete the session. This is a serious problem.

Sep 7, 2009 6:13 AM in response to johnsct

johnsct wrote:
This has nothing to do with moving or muting plugins. It's happened to me over the years in Logic 8 (only when overdubing and only hearable on playback, not while recording) and now 9 with a clean install (while recording), no third party plugs, and one or more audio tracks in record. I had this happen in a session with logic 9. The band ripped their headphones off, it was that loud. I went back to 8 to complete the session. This is a serious problem.


Yeah it def. has nothing to do w/muting or unmuting...I can confirm this on 3 different macs in Tiger and Leopard running 8.02....its absolutely unacceptable, I thought it blew my monitors one day when I just opened a file and whammo....not cool at all. I got into Logic cuz I thought Apple would have this thing working flawlessly w/Apple computers and it has been every bit the opposite experience for me, very frustrating.

Sep 12, 2009 2:01 AM in response to LouDar

After finally getting my UAD plugins working again (had a serious problem due to my energy saver settings), now I've moved on to the next problem - just started getting the noise blasts today while attempting to adjust settings on the Neve 1073 and the Pultec EQ. Had to save and quite and reopen to get it to even play the song, otherwise just the beachball and then eventually a system overload message over and over.

So for me at least, it seems connected to plugins. Now I'm scared to adjust anything for fear of the deafening white noise. Just updated to Snow Leopard yesterday, don't know if this is related to that. Is there a work around?

Sep 12, 2009 2:08 AM in response to Michael_McDonald

Reinitializing core audio may help. You can reinitialize by going to the Audio Preferences window, changing something (like the buffer size) and change it back, so that the Apply button becomes active. Clicking that then reinitializes core audio.
I also think it is due to a (SI) Plug In gone (temporarily) bad. Or an unintentional loop in the signal flow.

regards, Erik.

Sep 20, 2009 9:39 AM in response to Michael_McDonald

I remember reading this post and hoping it would never happen to me. Alright, it happened this morning. White noise at peak volume. Extremely disturbing. EXTREMELY! Not happy at all… This happened during playback in a recording session with ALL plugins turned off.

I started freezing tracks for the first time ever on regions where I used the Flex Tool. I see some discussions are linking the white noise to freezing.

It took Apogee six months to make a compatible driver for Leopard. I was getting kernel panics every day until then. So now I'm suspicious of the Duet also.

So, how do I turn off Journaling on my audio drive? In System Profiler my music drive says, "File System: Journaled HFS+"

Yes, LP9 is full of bugs. Up until now (for me) they were mostly interface behaviors or there were workarounds that I could find. Deafening white noise is more than a little problem. I'll try re-initializing the core audio too.

I've spent a LOT of time and money on a system that was running perfectly. Why would Apple fix something that wasn't broke, thus breaking it?

Sep 20, 2009 1:15 PM in response to Bob Lyons

OK, it was the freezing. No visual wave form. The noise was from 0 to the start of the first region. Unfreeze and refreeze fixed it. Another bug. I'll be turning my volume WAY down for now on after freezing a track.

Anyway, I went back to work on my little project and within a couple of hours Logic was running SO SLOW it became unbearable. Over 5 seconds to zoom or change screen sets. Frustrating. Now I see a lot of people with the same problems talking about their equipment and wondering if they need to upgrade. I've got the best computer Apple makes. It's maxed out. And Logic just doesn't work any more. It's no longer a professional application. You can't open a recording studio and expect people to stand around waiting for you to get Logic to work. They've taken the Pro out of Logic. Too bad. I feel like I've wasted 3 years learning to use a DAW that is a joke. Maybe I've love it again tomorrow. For today, I've had enough!

Sep 21, 2009 8:46 AM in response to Eriksimon

The Option key...of course! Alright, journaling is disabled. Thanks Erik.

Pancenter, yes, Bee Jay's report from London was a little ominous. I don't mind the marketing guys making Logic look like SuperGarageBand, if it still works. Hopefully the Logic Tour will return to my neighborhood soon. We haven't had any kind of Logic seminar/demonstration in the Miami area for a couple of years now. I always learn something at those.

Sep 22, 2009 5:03 AM in response to heilei

Yep, this goes beyond a bug and is downright negligent and dangerous on Apples behalf, can anyone else who thinks they may have damaged their hearing with this piece of rubbish software email me their contact details todd to pandamonium dot com dot au. Has anyone had a chance to read the eula when installing Logic? I am wondering if it somehow legally absolvess them from negligence, I doubt it. If they really cared about their users health they would issue a warning not to use Logic 9 until they fix it. I find it very obnoxious of them that they don't comment on their own forums on these and other less serious bugs. Last time I had this many problems with a new software release was back in the days of Cubase VST 3 and windows 98 on a computer about a twentieth as powerful as what I have now, disgraceful.

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