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My ears are ringing from blast of white noise from Logic 9

NEVER had this happen in Logic 8 (or any other software for that matter) on same hardware.. Not only can you not OPEN Logic 9 by clicking on a logic 9 file, SAVE in Logic 9 without it putting audio out of sync, now I discover you cannot RECORD for more than a few minutes without getting a blast of white noise. Seriously, my ears are still ringing 8 hours later from this noise. If they are still ringing Monday I am going to the hearing specialist and Apple WILL be paying the bill. I pray no serious damage has been done and that I will still be able to do mastering work. If I monitor through Logic, even at 128 the monitored audio will occasionally slip out of sync and there will be like a 2 second delay in the monitored audio, then eventually a deafening blast of white noise. To release software in this untested state is totally negligent, irresponsible and downright dangerous. Disgraceful.

Mac Pro 266 4 gig Ram - AMT8 - Tascam DM4800 with Firewire - Lots Of Guitars, Mac OS X (10.5.7), UAD 2 Card - M-Audio Keystation 88 Pro

Posted on Sep 4, 2009 2:13 PM

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Sep 12, 2009 2:01 AM in response to LouDar

After finally getting my UAD plugins working again (had a serious problem due to my energy saver settings), now I've moved on to the next problem - just started getting the noise blasts today while attempting to adjust settings on the Neve 1073 and the Pultec EQ. Had to save and quite and reopen to get it to even play the song, otherwise just the beachball and then eventually a system overload message over and over.

So for me at least, it seems connected to plugins. Now I'm scared to adjust anything for fear of the deafening white noise. Just updated to Snow Leopard yesterday, don't know if this is related to that. Is there a work around?

Sep 12, 2009 2:08 AM in response to Michael_McDonald

Reinitializing core audio may help. You can reinitialize by going to the Audio Preferences window, changing something (like the buffer size) and change it back, so that the Apply button becomes active. Clicking that then reinitializes core audio.
I also think it is due to a (SI) Plug In gone (temporarily) bad. Or an unintentional loop in the signal flow.

regards, Erik.

Sep 20, 2009 9:39 AM in response to Michael_McDonald

I remember reading this post and hoping it would never happen to me. Alright, it happened this morning. White noise at peak volume. Extremely disturbing. EXTREMELY! Not happy at all… This happened during playback in a recording session with ALL plugins turned off.

I started freezing tracks for the first time ever on regions where I used the Flex Tool. I see some discussions are linking the white noise to freezing.

It took Apogee six months to make a compatible driver for Leopard. I was getting kernel panics every day until then. So now I'm suspicious of the Duet also.

So, how do I turn off Journaling on my audio drive? In System Profiler my music drive says, "File System: Journaled HFS+"

Yes, LP9 is full of bugs. Up until now (for me) they were mostly interface behaviors or there were workarounds that I could find. Deafening white noise is more than a little problem. I'll try re-initializing the core audio too.

I've spent a LOT of time and money on a system that was running perfectly. Why would Apple fix something that wasn't broke, thus breaking it?

Sep 20, 2009 1:15 PM in response to Bob Lyons

OK, it was the freezing. No visual wave form. The noise was from 0 to the start of the first region. Unfreeze and refreeze fixed it. Another bug. I'll be turning my volume WAY down for now on after freezing a track.

Anyway, I went back to work on my little project and within a couple of hours Logic was running SO SLOW it became unbearable. Over 5 seconds to zoom or change screen sets. Frustrating. Now I see a lot of people with the same problems talking about their equipment and wondering if they need to upgrade. I've got the best computer Apple makes. It's maxed out. And Logic just doesn't work any more. It's no longer a professional application. You can't open a recording studio and expect people to stand around waiting for you to get Logic to work. They've taken the Pro out of Logic. Too bad. I feel like I've wasted 3 years learning to use a DAW that is a joke. Maybe I've love it again tomorrow. For today, I've had enough!

Sep 20, 2009 6:47 PM in response to Bob Lyons

Bob Lyons wrote:
Anyway, I went back to work on my little project and within a couple of hours Logic was running SO SLOW it became unbearable. Over 5 seconds to zoom or change screen sets. Frustrating. Now I see a lot of people with the same problems talking about their equipment and wondering if they need to upgrade. I've got the best computer Apple makes. It's maxed out. And Logic just doesn't work any more. It's no longer a professional application. You can't open a recording studio and expect people to stand around waiting for you to get Logic to work. They've taken the Pro out of Logic. Too bad. I feel like I've wasted 3 years learning to use a DAW that is a joke. Maybe I've love it again tomorrow. For today, I've had enough!


Bob,

Don't know if you saw this, it's Bee Jays impression after attending "Logic Studio World Tour - London".

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2162084&tstart=225

pancenter-

Sep 21, 2009 8:46 AM in response to Eriksimon

The Option key...of course! Alright, journaling is disabled. Thanks Erik.

Pancenter, yes, Bee Jay's report from London was a little ominous. I don't mind the marketing guys making Logic look like SuperGarageBand, if it still works. Hopefully the Logic Tour will return to my neighborhood soon. We haven't had any kind of Logic seminar/demonstration in the Miami area for a couple of years now. I always learn something at those.

Sep 22, 2009 5:03 AM in response to heilei

Yep, this goes beyond a bug and is downright negligent and dangerous on Apples behalf, can anyone else who thinks they may have damaged their hearing with this piece of rubbish software email me their contact details todd to pandamonium dot com dot au. Has anyone had a chance to read the eula when installing Logic? I am wondering if it somehow legally absolvess them from negligence, I doubt it. If they really cared about their users health they would issue a warning not to use Logic 9 until they fix it. I find it very obnoxious of them that they don't comment on their own forums on these and other less serious bugs. Last time I had this many problems with a new software release was back in the days of Cubase VST 3 and windows 98 on a computer about a twentieth as powerful as what I have now, disgraceful.

Sep 22, 2009 5:12 AM in response to Mr Pandamonium

I'm getting glitch spikes too (as if the spike has been time stretched) - there is also a really dangerous bug in STP2 which is also still present in STP3 where if you try to remove noise you get the same static noise.

Other bugs I've noted are crashing while saving (which also produces a loud burst of noise which you can only stop by force quitting Logic (nearly lost a pair of Mackies and my ears thanks to that lovely bug!), the blasted Low Memory bug - and the fact that bouncing in LP9 does not bounce at the level it states (leading to volume discrepancies in stems)

It's pretty shocking that these dangerous bugs were not picked up sooner or still have not been addressed as without our ears, we really can't use this software!

Hopefully your hearing is ok - I have tinnitus (have done since I was young) and its normally due to the tiny hairs in your inner ear mis-firing, if there's no bad damage it usually clears in a couple of days/weeks, but a musician friend of mine had it for about 3 months. I've had it for 13 years and counting...

Sep 22, 2009 9:54 PM in response to johnsct

So how widespread is this white noise problem? There are thousands of Logic users worldwide so you would think Apple would have to issue a warning and possibly a full refund for a defective and unsafe product. I have not heard the noise yet but since I read this post tonight I am sure it will happen soon. Has Apple issued any statements about this problem?

My ears are ringing from blast of white noise from Logic 9

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