Snow Leopard, Boot Camp, and NTFS

I recently upgraded to SL and when I run boot camp, the program defaults to FAT 32--even at 40 GB of Space selected. The application does not allow me to select, it defaults to Fat 32--thus I can not install Vista. Am I missing something here?

IMac, Mac OS X (10.6)

Posted on Sep 6, 2009 6:13 PM

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Sep 8, 2009 3:58 PM in response to C Ogle

Granted guys & girls, about the FAQ and all. Still, Apple's claims are not always entirely accurate. For political or technical reasons, whatever. Steve & Bill & friends make deals...that's no news.
Be that as it may: my Snow happily writes to both Bootcamp (NTFS) and external NTFS drives (provided they were +safely removed+ from previous station they were attached to) without the aid of 3rd party drives. Simply upgraded Leopard to Snow -official release-, only running native Apple software. So don't say it's just not true, that's a bit too absolute for my taste.

In Apple's defense: it's dangerous of course, messing with Bootcamp or external drives. We're all used to plug and play, just take out the USB-drive, and laugh at the warning that comes up. Hard reset a machine that doesn't respond properly...etc. And sofar that worked. In this case operations are a bit more delicate however. Naturally Apple doesn't want to support such an easily messed up feature (just like the simple -windows- 'cut & paste').

This is why I stated: Snow can do it. And it does perfectly, sofar. It is nevertheless apparently undocumented and unsupported, and we have to assume: for a reason. So there: the faq is right; it's disabled.

Therefor it requires a tiny little tweak in OS X. Simple enough. I'm new here: can I publish that? Are people at all interested? Since I'm not really interested in just yes/no's and people devaluating my claims.

Sep 9, 2009 4:54 PM in response to chadstone30

chadstone30 wrote:
seriously. don't be a tease, just post it and let the mods decide. c
chadstone30 wrote:
seriously. don't be a tease, just post it and let the mods decide. c

Right, so be it.

Let me just once more stress that this is unsupported, and could lead to serious problems. This is really not recommended for average mac-users. Trust me: be religious about the 'safely removing the external drive' feature in windows (if you intend to use that drive on the Mac later), and on the Mac: remove the drive properly. Don't just unplug it. Same goes for Bootcamp: if you crashed your windows -and therewith the NTFS partition or drive wasn't properly closed- don't even try accessing it with the Mac, until you've done a proper windows boot & shutdown on it. There's more: don't do silly things, like undoing a move operation on the NTFS drive, or 'get info' on a 200GB drive with 6000 songs and 300 folders on it....

But simple read/write operations will work, so you can finally put those +4GB files somewhere now. Drag entire directory-trees over...no problem. But if you don't understand what it actually is that you're doing there, just stay away from this.

Now the simple part:
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*-create (or if exists: edit) the file /etc/fstab*
*-in it put the following statement: LABEL={ntsf-volume-label} none ntfs rw*
*-reboot the Mac*
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In my case, my Bootcamp partition is called BOOTCAMP, and one of my ntfs usb-drives I whish to write to is called LaCie500. So it reads in my fstab:

+LABEL=BOOTCAMP none ntfs rw+
+LABEL=LaCie500 none ntfs rw+

That was all. I could have explained that one creates the file with "+sudo nano /etc/fstab+", but I won't. If you need that much info you should probably not mess with this stuff.

_+I take no responsability, nor shall I...blahblahblah...you know the drill...+_

Sep 17, 2009 7:57 AM in response to _Q__Q_

I'd even add : don't edit manually fstab, Apple created a script to do so : vifs
(try it in a console instead of creating/editing fstab manually : # sudo vifs)

Of course, if you're not a friend of vi, too bad... As Q_Q stated, the whole NTFS RW issue is an unsupported feature.

I had it working for a week on my mac after trying ntfs-3g and Paragon NTFS 7.02 beta to no avail, and for 2 days, the contents of one of my NTFS disks is not visible anymore. Everything works perfectly, Disk Utility sees the drive as usual, it is mounted, Writeable, 14,456 files on it, but as soon as I try to view them using Finder or with an ls in a terminal, NOTHING. What is crazy, is that the drive is still working perfectly under Leopard/Paragon, and that the files disappeared in the middle of a working session while I wasn't using them or hacking anything (I was just surfing with Safari).

I succeeded already once to get my drive's contents back on Snow, probably by booting Leopard, then removing the fstab for Snow, reboot Snow, recreate fstab with LABELs instead of UUIDs, reboot again... Just to loose my drive once more yesterday. While my other 1TB NTFS disk works flawlessly for 2 weeks... AAAAAAAAARG.

Please help a hacker brother if you can 😉

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