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When syncing smart playlists that have the 'Live Updating' option enabled, the playlist that ends up on the iPhone with OS 3.1 or Touch with 3.1.1 does not match what shows up in iTunes. The temporary workaround is to disable the Live Updating option. That has terrible side effects though. But does anyone know if Apple is considering this a bug, or some kind of 'new feature'?
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This iTunes 9 Smart Playlist "Live Updating" bug is infuriating!! I've tried everything, restore iPod touch, delete Smart lists all to no avail....The touch just don't want to copy the "Live updated" playlist and does its own thing! I have a 5th gen.video iPod (God bless it) and it has no problems at all with iTunes 9.0.1 So Apple how are we to rid this Smart BUG??? Help........
When is Apple going to fix this! This is the number 1 feature I use with iTunes/iPhone. It's driving me crazy!!!
I'm having the same issues! This *****!! I buy Apple for their usual ability to get things near perfect and when they don't their ability to quickly fix it. I am VERY DISAPPOINTED however in something that seems like a simple fix for them would be still around to cause users headaches.
I have successfully managed to sync my Smart Playlists to my iPod touch (1st). After many attempts I discovered by setting the rules in each Smart list to: 'playlist ...is...Music' followed by 'limited to 25 items selected by 'Most Recently Added' (for example) the list synced correctly to the iPod touch. I repeated this with all my other Smart Playlists and hey ho!! I guess this may not work for everyone - I only have video/music lists.....but at least I can now leave Live Updating ON with no problems and they ALL sync correctly. Hope this helps
My Smart Playlists are syncing correctly again with 'Live Updating' enabled...The problem seems to me to do with the Smart Playlists Rules. By altering the rules (see my post 26 -Sep -2009) it has fixed the syncing issue with my iPod touch (1st). Has this worked for anyone else? Just to be sure I have synced the Smart Playlists again and again over the last 24hrs and they are correctly transferred to the touch.
Message was edited by: Dave Jelfs
Message was edited by: Dave Jelfs
Thank you Dave! Creating the rule "playlist is music" has corrected the problem!!
The list is synching correctly with live updating on.
The list is synching correctly with live updating on.
Dave,
Beautiful fix. I shared your fix with folks over at my site. http://clkoerner.com/2009/09/27/itunes-9-smart-playlist-live-updating-iphone-fai l/
Thanks again for sharing!
-Chris
Beautiful fix. I shared your fix with folks over at my site. http://clkoerner.com/2009/09/27/itunes-9-smart-playlist-live-updating-iphone-fai l/
Thanks again for sharing!
-Chris
Dave,
Fantastic find! It seems to work!
koernerc - In your article, you say something which is not totally correct.
"In fact there’s even a bonus side effect for those who only want to sync music, and not video within your playlists." In my own testing, these playlists will still include Music Videos.
Fantastic find! It seems to work!
koernerc - In your article, you say something which is not totally correct.
"In fact there’s even a bonus side effect for those who only want to sync music, and not video within your playlists." In my own testing, these playlists will still include Music Videos.
Fantastic! I managed to make it work for podcasts too... I created a new smart playlist called Podcast that consists of either "media kind is podcast" or "genre is podcast". Then I made my usual smart playlist of unplayed podcasts include the line "playlist is Podcast". It now seems to sync in the correct order! Ironic that these nested smart playlists used to be totally unreliable -- now they're the only way to make it work!
Alan
Alan
Wow, this worked! My playlist is made up of Podcasts rather than music and there is no "Playlist--is--Podcast" rule toggle, so I thought it wouldn't help me. I added a "Playlist--is not--Music" rule to my existing rule, and the order on my iPhone now matches iTunes! Thanks Dave!
Unfortunately this seems to break the rule 'Playcount = 0' so my podcasts in my smart playlist are not deleted from the list on my iphone after they are played. This can get confusing if I don't sync for a few days and I will have to find the first Podcast I haven't listened to.
So how would I make it work with a smartlist that looks at another playlist and not music? I have 80 gigs of music which I dont all want for the gym. I created a playlist called "Gym Load" and then a smart playlist off that one. It's not working for me that way.
Is the only way smartplaylist are working is with Playlist is Music?????
Is the only way smartplaylist are working is with Playlist is Music?????
So it appears that simply adding +Playlist is Music+ or +Playlist *is not* Music+ (depending on whether or not it's a music playlist or a podcast playlist) corrects the problem on my end.
Darren H:
What happens if you have both conditions "Playlist is Music" AND "Playlist is Gym Load"?
I have 100% the same issue (and it's my gym mix too), but actually returned my nano two days ago before this solution was posted, so don't have a chance to test. My "master playlist" is extremely long and uses tons of intelligence, and my snc playlist is much smaller and only has one or two rules plus live update.
What happens if you have both conditions "Playlist is Music" AND "Playlist is Gym Load"?
I have 100% the same issue (and it's my gym mix too), but actually returned my nano two days ago before this solution was posted, so don't have a chance to test. My "master playlist" is extremely long and uses tons of intelligence, and my snc playlist is much smaller and only has one or two rules plus live update.
Hi
Since I only listen to podcasts, I used the 'playlist ...is NOT ...Music' and it worked for me.
Many Thanks for your suggestion, great stuff!
Scott
Since I only listen to podcasts, I used the 'playlist ...is NOT ...Music' and it worked for me.
Many Thanks for your suggestion, great stuff!
Scott
iTunes 9 Smart Playlist 'Live Updating' bug