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Is Anyone Having Problems with the newer version of Firefox?

I still have my older Mac OsXv10.4 Tiger software. I wasn't exactly happy with Safari browser as it would block many sites and were considered incompatible so I downloaded the free Firefox browser (the 2.0 version) of which I STILL have. I'm aware that there is a much newer version and would like to download that, but I've heard a lot of people saying they have been having severe problems with it, but then they have PCs and not Macs.
So my question is for you Mac users that use Firefox, have you had major problems with the newer version? I'm real hesitant to download if I'm going to have the same problem PC users are having...like constantly crashing. Also would my old Tiger software be compatible? I don't want to upgrade to Leopard.

iMac, Mac OS X (10.4)

Posted on Sep 24, 2009 7:42 PM

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Sep 25, 2009 7:58 AM in response to pyewacket

Yes. I had problems with Firefox 3.5. The primary problem was very slow or never-ending loading of certain websites (particularly secure sites and sites with many features). I also have had similar, but not as bad, problems with Safari 4. I never had these problems with Safari 2 or Firefox 2. It just seems that with each update, the problems increased for me. I have read the Safari and Firefox forums and tried many fixes with little improvement. I have come to the conclusion that there is some kind of compatibility problem between the latest versions of Safari and Firefox and Shockwave Flash and/or Javascript and OS 10.4, particularly on PPC Macs. I expect there are many who will disagree and I cannot argue or prove the point. This is just my opinion. And I recognize that my problems could be caused by my setup and not by the browsers. By the way, I do not use any add-ons with any of my browsers. Anyway, I got tired of dealing with it and installed the latest version of Camino about 2 weeks ago. I also did a clean install of Firefox 3.0.13. Camino is working out great for me. It is simple and it works. No problems at all. So currently I am using Camino as my primary browser and Firefox 3.0.13 as my backup. I hope this helps.

Sep 26, 2009 5:17 PM in response to pyewacket

I'm running Firefox 3.5.3 with no real problems. But you don't say what iMac you're using. (You have to be using at least a G3/400 to be able to run Tiger.) How much RAM do you have? 512, or even better, 768 is good for Tiger. You should also leave plenty of room on the drive. 20-25% is OK.

The new engine in the 3.5 might be a little bit more resource consuming than the previous 3.0 and that shows up in some small, trivial ways on this G3/400, but if I can run it on this old computer, you can too.

The previous 3.0 won't be supported with security updates past the end of this year. Might as well install the 3.5.

I would probably take any complaints about Firefox with a grain of salt. It's fine.

Sep 27, 2009 12:54 AM in response to pyewacket

I've used firefox for several years now. I never loved Safari, and now I'm hooked on Firefox extensions and add-ons. Some are just glam, but then there's Flashblock and Adblock. The preferences give me more options to control the interface than Safari. And I like the look and feel of the thing itself.

But Firefox does crash some, and the developers seem to think that "update" means "add bling". I might take a suggestion from someone who posted above and try Camino. But I have the feeling I'll end up with my old faithful Fox.

Sep 27, 2009 12:55 AM in response to Limnos

I battled with that a while ago. Here's what I found out to remedy it:

1.
Export your bookmarks into an HTML file and save it on your desktop.

2.
Close Firefox.

3.
Go to ~/Library/Application Support/Firefox/Profiles/[randomstring]/

4.
Delete the following (if they exist):
- places.sqlite
- places.sqlite-journal
- bookmarks.html
- bookmarkbackups (folder)

5.
Restart Firefox.

6.
Import the previously created bookmarks.html

Voila! Old icons gone.

Favicons and bookmarks are saved in "places.sqlite". If that one doesn't exist when Firefox is started, it will create a new one from the files in the "bookmarkbackups" folder or a bookmarks.html file (in that order). If none of those exist, it will simply create a new empty "places-sqlite" file, into which you can import a fresh set of bookmarks. The HTML file doesn't contain favicons, but the SQLITE file does.

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Sep 27, 2009 7:46 AM in response to Limnos

*LImnos Wrote:* Firefox 3.5.3 is working for me. My only gripe is that the bookmarks are taking longer to activate, mostly because of the silly little icons next to them.


I'm not seeing this--when I would expect to--on this slow computer. I probably have hundrds of bookmarks and the full list probably loads within an eighth of a second. What I am noticing in the 3.5 is a trivial loading problem in the bookmarks toolbar, where the first half of them load first, then an instant later, the rest load. I think the resource consuming shows up for me most in the 3.5 taking a little longer to completely load from closed, or a bit longer for a new window to open.

By the way, probably the most important extension hasn't been mentioned: NoScript, which can prevent the injection of certain malware carrying Javascripts. No other popular browser has this capability and, more and more, malware exploits are using this route. NS can also block hideous resource consuming and annoying malware vector Flash.
http://noscript.net/

Sep 27, 2009 3:37 PM in response to litterbuggy

Emac and 10.4.11 is not a problem for my eMac nor my older Ti Onyx 667mhz 512 SDRam

Also running Firefox 3.1.13 with no problem, except it is slower than older versions. Actually seems like less crashing tho.

I stopped using Safari cause yahhoo's rich-text beta would work properly with Safari but does well with Firefox, except for posting URL in the hyperlink box.

Tried Firefox 3 on my G3 400mhz and 368 ram. 😟

Takes forever to open. Might as well trash the G3's they are way to far behind the times..

ran

Nov 15, 2009 2:37 PM in response to Ran

I'm having major power issues with the newest Firefox, 3.5.5, it is sluggish, and my Activity Monitor shows it's CPU usage as high (or even higher) as 100%!!!

If I've not been using it for awhile (even while it's open), and I input a url, or click on a bookmark, etc., the spinning wheel spins, & I must wait 20 secs to a minute or more, before it gets to work!

Anyone else experiencing this?

Nov 15, 2009 2:51 PM in response to Saxman

No problems here with it on PPC/10.4.11 or InteliMac/10.5.8/10.6.2

Try disabling your add-ons, if that doesn't work, I think you should get Applejack...

http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/19596

After installing, reboot holding down CMD+s, (+s), then when the DOS like prompt shows, type in...

applejack AUTO

Then let it do all 5 of it's things.

At least it'll eliminate some questions if it doesn't fix it.

The 5 things it does are...

Correct any Disk problems.
Repair Permissions.
Clear out Cache Files.
Repair/check several plist files.
Dump the VM files for a fresh start.

Nov 16, 2009 9:10 AM in response to pyewacket

You should be able use all of the browsers mentioned so far in this thread.

However, I have found that the SQLite databases used to record and block suspect sites become bloated and slow browsing on many older Macs. I always turn them off at eg:

Safari/Preferences/Security/Warn when visiting a fraudulent website

and

Firefox/Preferences/Security/Block reported attack sites
Firefox/Preferences/Security/Block reported web forgeries

My default browser is Camino. This is a Mozilla browser based upon Firefox 2. It was written specifically for Macs. It is still fully supported by Mozilla.

I would use Safari but find its lack of dynamically updated visited links too inefficient for my purposes. As far as I am aware it is the only browser with this serious defect. I have reported this twice and given up!

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