24" LED Cinema display won't wake from long sleep

Just bought a brand new 24" iMac and matching 24" LED Cinema display. Clean 10.6 installation out of the box. Day one, everything working ok except if I let the system sleep for a while the iMac will wake up if a key is pressed or mouse moved, but the display will not. No problem if its been asleep for a few minutes or even half an hour but leave it say 6 hours (say I'm downloading something overnight) and I get this problem. It will work again if I reboot the iMac or disconnect the display's power though just disconecting the display from the iMac display port doesn't seem to fix it.

Has anyone got any ideas? Apple tech support had nothing except suggesting resetting the PRAM. At the time I wasn't aware the problem was only happening after an extended period of sleep so I thought it was fixed but its clearly still there. Help!

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iMac 24", Mac OS X (10.6.1), 24" LED cinema Display

Posted on Sep 30, 2009 2:31 PM

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Jan 9, 2011 7:08 AM in response to dawsman

I tried that 'solution' myself a number of times, and though it worked a few times, eventually, it stopped working. I'm waiting for my ACD to return from Apple with new components on board, and I'll attempt to uninstall my HP printer. For what it's worth, my printer is a LaserJet P2015.
I also have a DeskJet 5800 at the cottage, so I'll have to uninstall that too.

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Jan 9, 2011 7:46 AM in response to Guy Parrot

The problem I have with HP software in OS X causing this issue is that I have the same problem in Bootcamp (Windows 7 Professional 64-bit). So I can't blame my particular problem on HP software for Mac. I'm almost certain in my case that it is a hardware issue. I've had the logic board replaced, and that doesn't appear to have helped. The "all in one" cable is most commonly brought up as the cause of this problem, but I'm not sure how one would rectify it ( don't know if replacing the cable would help at all).

The USB port solution has worked for me for a couple of days, but I'll give it a week or two before I'm confident it is a solution. This discussion has been very helpful - thanks to all involved.

Jan 10, 2011 1:27 PM in response to reid007

The engineer walked me through the process of switching the printer software to the Image Capture which came with my Mac. The conflict seemed to be with the HP Software, not the HP printer itself. I can suggest calling my case worker: Halmar 877-416-4271 x5583. My case #192057284. He sent the Capture Data application and forwarded it to the engineer who helped me. (All this was under my Apple Care.)

Jul 31, 2011 12:27 AM in response to reid007

$1000 for ANY Monitor is an outrageous price to pay, let alone one with inherent problems. I have been a long Apple customer having spent THOUSANDS over the last 3 years alone. My latest upgrade was adding a second 27" LED Cinema Display to match my first Apple 27" LED Cinema Display.


Right away after installing the 2nd Apple 27" LED Cinema Display a problem occurred. Using a Radeon HD 5770 board which has 2 Mini Display Ports, I figured this 2nd Apple LED Cinema Display was a perfect set up for my 2006 Mac Pro 1,1 3GHz 8 Core. Unfortunately, when the computer went to sleep, it suddenly could not be made to wake up! Interestingly before connecting the 2nd new LED Cinema Display, I removed a Dell 24" 2407 Display. With the Dell connected via a DVI port and ONE 27" LED Cinema Display there was NO problems ever. However, with the 2nd Apple LED Cinema Display connected, once the LED screens went dark, and as much as I tried, I could do nothing to get the computer to wake.


To make a long story short, I use a wireless Bluetooth Mouse and Keyboard. Before hooking up the 2nd LED Display the 2 dongles (for the Logitech Mouse and Keyboard) were connected to the Apple Cinema Display and not the Dell Monitor. However, the Dell Monitor had a USB line connected to it as I get my Compact Flash pictures from the built in card reader port on the Dell Monitor. So after all else failed I moved the 2 USB Dongle Bluetooth receivers to the MAC PRO itself. Now my computer wakes up.


I am shocked that Apple Computer would allow a product as expensive as an LED Cinema display to be sold to the public with an inherent design flaw that affects the onboard USB's port's ability to initialize a sleeping Mac Pro computer system. YES, the screen is magnificent, but you have a USB port that was not designed to send signals to the MAC PRO after the screen goes into sleep mode.



I can understand an odd failure, but NOT when this is a known and broad technology issue and Apple acts like nothing is wrong and each and every new complaint brings the same shrug of the shoulder. That is exactly the type of American corporte management philosophy that has hurt American industry and it appears Apple might not be that different in this regard.


It appears to me that APPLE has abandoned much of its computer division or lessened its role in favor of more profitable iPods and iPhone divisions. Certainly the 2010 Mac Pro flag ship computer is lagging technology considerably going into Q3 of 2011. I am starting to get the very strong urge to abandon Apple and head back to the PC World and Windows 7. If what I saw today is an indication of what the future holds for me as an Apple enduser, I will have no choice but to spend my money elsewhere.

Sep 1, 2011 10:09 AM in response to reid007

Okay, I am a new victim. I swapped out the power supply and it worked.


However, I think my solution and others listed are work arounds. I believe this is an "Apple" issue that Apple engineers need to fix.


I have the following equipment:

7 year old 23" CD purchased second hand (presumably a month after original owner purchased)

a year old iMac running 10.6.8 (purchased new);

a 7 year old Pwr Book (purchased new)


I purchased the iMac so I could run Windows (a POS) in a VM. In other words, my Pwr Book still works.


I first experienced the CD issue 3 weeks ago after a power failure. I tried the monitor with Pwr Book and it did not work. Therefore, I thought the failure may have fried my "brick" power supply so I purchased a used one (I tried using an ohm meter, but leads were too thick).


In the meantime, I used a new Dell display without issue.


When I received my new/used supply, I was able to use the monitor. However, I went to lunch and come back to find that my monitor will not come out of sleep mode.


I find this posting. The only suggestion I tried was waiting 15 mins, which did not work. Therefore, I tried my initial/original pwr supply and low and behold, my supply comes on.


Based on the responses, I changed my display settings to no longer go into "sleep" mode.


Time will tell, but as I stated initially, I truly believe this is an Apple issue associated with either new hardware (ie intel), new OS, both or something totally different.

Sep 25, 2011 6:42 PM in response to reid007

I've continued to have the screen flicker / wake from sleep issue with my refurb 24" LED cinema display since my earlier posts above. Replacement of the logic board by Apple did not solve the problem. Therefore, I decided to replace the power supply (the internal board, not the cable). I bought one from eBay for about $100 USD. When I received the new power supply I noticed it was a different brand - the original one in my display is manufactured by Lite-On, while the new one is manufactured by "Delta Electronics". I believe they are both genuine Apple parts though.


Anyway, I've replaced the power supply and I no longer have the flicker / wake from sleep problem. I'm very relieved to no longer have this issue!

Jun 11, 2012 8:12 PM in response to lupunus

Lupunus, your explanation makes the most sense. The setups are ALL different; some with MBPs, others with Mac Pros, others using PCs with adapters, I'm having issues with AppleTVs (gen 2 and gen 3 tried). Apple's Cinema Displays appear to be extremely difficult to turn on. This is a case where Apple's obsessive simplification has made a right mess of things, yet no one at Apple is acknowledging the problem! Engineer a dongle that boosts the turn-on signal from weak signals! Every other display I've tried turns on using the same setup, which is Apple TV to Kanex DVI-MDP adapter to 35 ft 23 awg MDP cable (Samsung 22" and 24" monitors, LCD TV, etc.) but the Cinema Display doesn't. What's worse, it has deteriorated over time from working about half the time to not working at all, and this even after I removed a 2-way MDP switch that was in the signal chain AND a 6' MDP extension cable.


I was searching for a way to force it to turn on, and the USB device idea sounded promising, but no dice. I tried a Bluetooth dongle and a USB keyboard, and nothing. Oddly, I get audio - clicks, I activated the Voiceover option by hitting the AppleTV remote's "menu" button too many times, and now it keeps saying "Welcome to AppleTV. If you require Voiceover to use Apple TV, press the small button located on the lower right of your remote three times" every 15 seconds or so. But the USB keyboard won't light up at all, no CAPS lock or num lock light at all. So frustrating.


David

Jun 11, 2012 8:27 PM in response to David Ahn

Since replacing the internal power supply in my 24" ACD (see 4 posts earlier) haven't had the wake from sleep issue again in the Mac OSX (Lion) environment. I do however still have the issue under Windows 7 (Bootcamp), where the screen won't wake from sleep. I think this is consistent with the reasoning of Lupunus and David above, and in my case is related to the different power management between Mac OSX and Windows 7.


I think my problem was initially a faulty power supply which was exacerbating the issue, but there still does appear to be an underlying problem with the ACD and power signals/management.

Jun 11, 2012 9:46 PM in response to dawsman_1

Thanks, Dawsman. Every piece of information helps. We initially had the MDP switch that switched between the AppleTV (converted to MDP) and iMac in Boot Camp. Initially the iMac would work much more reliably than the AppleTV, but it deteriorated at some point and now nothing works even though I've removed two things from the signal chain (the switch and a MDP extension cable). I decided to use a software AirPlay solution rather than a hardware switch, simplifying to a single connection to the Cinema Display. Swapping out the AppleTV 2s with AppleTV 3s didn't help either. And with our 35 ft cable run (a beefy 23 awg cable about 3/4" diameter), the Cinema Display wouldn't lock sync at 1920 x 1200.


Incidentally, Lupunus gives great advice (use one cable, avoid adapters and converters) that is unfollowable thanks to Apple. Since the AppleTV ONLY has DVI out, and the Cinema Display ONLY has mini-displayport in, and there is no HDMI source to MDP display cables (there are only MDP source to DVI display cables; HDMI source to MDP display requires an electronic converter).


Our next step is to move the AppleTV to the CinemaDisplay to see if it reduces the signal drop enough to switch the Cinema Display on. If that doesn't work either, we will have to take them in to Apple for the $400 repair/replace service.

Jun 19, 2012 8:12 AM in response to reid007

I had a problem (i.e. past tense) with my 23” cinema display not coming out of sleep. I read multiple posts to find a solution. My problem was resolved when I changed my smaller iMac (not a solution I had in mind; it just happened) to a larger iMac (I forget sizing between the two).


Absent an Apple engineering fix, I believe people will need to find a ‘work-around’ from all those that have been posted in this discussion and others discussion boards on Apple’s site and in non-Apple technology blogs (just do a search via Google-it has been a long time so I forget).


For bkgd purposes, my CD is ~8 yrs old. I initially used with my ~8 yr old PwrPC laptop (which still works well, but is obsolete due to hardware). Two year ago, I purchased the smaller iMac to replace the laptop. One day (could have been a year later) the CD fails to come out of sleep. I concluded from reading discussion boards that it may be the ‘brick’ and purchased a used one.


Switching out the brick worked for a time, but I ran into same problem sometime later. After switching back to the old brick, I decided to keep the CD on constantly (i.e. no sleep mode, but had a screensaver come on).


Approximately 6 months ago I purchased the larger iMac and discovered that my CD comes out of sleep. Therefore, I conclude, there is not enough juice in some of the devices to kick the CD out of sleep, hence my belief that this is an Apple problem and should be solved free of charge by them.

Oct 27, 2012 12:19 PM in response to jngilman

I had a wake up problem with my display and I finally tracked it down to the energy saving settings after reading various websites. I finally found that the following definitely works.


Delete the following file and the restart your computer and the monitor comes back to life!


/Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration/com.apple.PowerManagement.plist


I battled with this problem for months but by removing this file the monitor came back to life. Apple, why have you not fixed this problem? When I spend £600 on a monitor I expect it to work flawlessly!

Jan 11, 2014 4:47 AM in response to Celestrium

Exact same problem as everyone else has described - monitor won't wake up after long sleep, usb still works but screen doesn't turn on ..eventually monitor would turn on after rage pulling the cable in and out... bla bla. I have a Macbook late 2009 (unibody), running on Maverick with a 24" LED Cinema Display (don't know what year).


Thank you Celestrium. Your trick *SOLVED MY PROBLEM*! I deleted the file just as you proposed and my Cinema Display has been worked flawlessly ever since. Yay!!!



Delete the following file and the restart your computer and the monitor comes back to life!


/Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration/com.apple.PowerManagement.plist

Jan 18, 2014 4:37 AM in response to daaavvviiid

A week ago, I upgraded the Radeon 1900XT graphics card in my ancient MacPro (made in 2007) using

an ATI Radeon HD 5770 Graphics Upgrade Kit for Mac Pro. This kit doesn't seem to be available from Apple but I found a source(OWC) for it.


For years I was experiencing the same sleep issues for my 23" Cinema display(display would not come to life either after a cold startup or after sleeping) and was pretty much resigned to restarting my Mac 3 - 5 times before the screen would show anything. The problem seemed to start after a system upgrade (can't remember when).


The new card seems to have solved that problem. After over a week of use and many sleep-wake cycles, there hasn't been one situation when the monitor didn't wake up. The solution seems to be in what the monitor is plugging into on the card but I'm not expert enough to know details of its inner workings.



Mar 5, 2015 7:37 AM in response to Celestrium

Thank you thank you thank you!


I have had a useless Apple LCD monitor here for two years. When I bough my new Mac Pro I had to buy a new 27" LCD screen as well as the previous one was too unreliable. I had quotes of hundreds of dollars just to look at it from the local Apple dealer and my wife wanted me to throw it out. I just never believed it was that far gone as it would work for a while perfectly then after a while would be totally black. Several days later it would work fine again for a while.


In countless tests I never fathomed out the connection to sleep and not waking till I tried again yesterday and saw it sleep and fail to wake up. Armed with that information I searched for 'Apple LCD won't wake from sleep' and found you post. Sure enough after deleting the .plist the monitor is good as new.


What is amazing is the same exact issue was happening on both MBPs I have and my nMP all upgraded to Yosemite. So it sounds kind of like a bug in Mavericks maybe that carried over to Yosemite? Anyone out there have a clue?


For those on Yosemite that see no such file, it will be created once you change settings in the Energy Saver panel in System Preferences. I honestly don't know if creating it will cure the problem if no such file exists or if creating then deleting after a reboot would. My guess is something was corrupted in the Monitor itself and a fresh .plist fixed it. Maybe even Yosemite and the deletion was needed? I just don't know but I do know my nMP looks pretty good with two Apple LCD screens now thanks to you.


Cheers!

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