SMART Fail Parameter 190 (Temperature Changes)

TechTool gives me a complete failure rating on this parameter. Have found no reference anywhere as to what it means exactly, whether i should ignore it, or grab my belongings and leave the building quickly before it goes nuclearpostal.

Everything else passes, and Onyx just gave it a pass. Both TT and O updated as of yesterday.

Anyone know anything about this parameter? 194 is fine, by the way.

IMac Intel, Mac OS X (10.6.1)

Posted on Oct 3, 2009 11:14 AM

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Oct 3, 2009 11:49 AM in response to Bill Weylock

Contact MicroMat, the developer of TT, since it's their product.

The SMART status of a drive is used to determine if a drive is failing or not. OS X's Disk Utility will provide a status reading of "Verified" or "Failing" which generally indicates either the drive is probably OK or probably failing, respectively. The key here is "probability." Neither reading means the drive absolutely is OK or failing. But if you get a "Failing" status report I would backup your drive ASAP.

Oct 3, 2009 12:42 PM in response to Kappy

Thanks, but I really am not a rube. I have many redundant backups (3) and understand what SMART is in general. The question does not pertain to MicroMat, with whom i am familiar from MacFixit. If they were going to be helpful, they would define the parameters their blasted utility throws at the user. Actually, despite the great support on MacFixit, it's been a problem with their stuff from way way back: showboat technical without explanations of their dauntingly detailed diagnostics (DDD).

My question is very particular: what is that 190 parameter, what does a failure indicate, and how serious is it in comparison to other things and in the sight of the Lord? Since I can find no tech notes on it, I am tempted to think it's an anomaly of their software, but would you expect them to admit that right off? And it could be something pretty awful for all I know.

With respect for your obviously voluminous contributions and dedication to providing support, I did already say that I had a SMART pass from Onyx. I have been verifying and repairing hard drives for a long time.

I'm going on like this because in my experience any answer tends to deflect attention from the question, and this one (again not wanting to seem ungrateful) does not address my question.

Thanks, Kappy. Your answer would have helped 99.62% of people posting something like that.

Best regards,

- Bill

Oct 3, 2009 12:59 PM in response to Bill Weylock

Perhaps next time you will be more precise with your question. As I said it's MicroMat's program so you need to ask them. You haven't suggested whether the parameter is a SMART one or just one from TT. Don't even know if the version of TT you are using is compatible with version of OS X that you have installed. If this is TT Deluxe that may have come with your computer, then i wouldn't rely on it for more than a drink coaster.

Google SMART to find a wealth of information about it, what it reports, what the data mean, etc. There is a third-party utility called SMART Reporter - VersionTracker or MacUpdate - that may provide more extensive information.

I apologize for wasting your time.

Oct 3, 2009 1:36 PM in response to Kappy

Okay. I just re-read the thread, and I surrounded a simple question with a lot of chatter that misled instead of helping. I did make it sound as if I was asking about TechTools, didn't mention it was TTP, didn't say I had also run the SMART check with Onyx, and then got pretty obnoxiously snippy and huffy with you.

Apart from that, it's all your fault!

Sorry. Really.

What I should have asked very simply and may do in another post is "What is the SMART test parameter 190 (Temperature Changes)? Since I read that there are 255 of them, and since I haven't found anything like an explanatory list through Google, I'm guessing there is one guy in Toronto or Oslo who might have known before he had that accident.

Thanks for SMART Reporter, but it just re-runs the checks, gives a summary score, and doesn't provide any documentation about individual errors.

I do know that this error is new in the past couple of months. I have never seen anything red in the list before.

Again, sorry. You were obviously trying to help, and I was a bad bad patient.


Best,


- Bill

Oct 3, 2009 3:33 PM in response to Kappy

It's bloody brilliant! Thanks so much!
Never thought of Wikipedia. It usually pops at the top of google links...
What a great article too! Just the fact that the standards are fluid and the attributes were never defined by the originators ... Puts things in perspective.

Seems like Drive manufacturer and I need to get together on this.

Thanks again, Kappy. After all that guff, i especially appreciate your finding this!

Are you in a relationship? 🙂

Best,

- Bill

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