How can I connect via FW

The computer desk came with a built in USB 2 hub which I have hooked up to my Summer of 2000 iMac G3 Snow 500MHz and iPod 5. Yes the transfer of videos and music is bit slower then firewire but it is not that much of a big deal.
Actually, it's a LOT slower because you are only using USB 1.1, since that is what you're computer has.
FireWire is 40 MBPS and USB 1.1 is 12 MBPS.
If it works for ya' though great.
Since you have 30/60GB ipod, you should not have to be uploading bunches of songs all the time, therefore, not a problem.

"Actually, it's a LOT slower because you are only using USB 1.1, since that is what you're computer has.
FireWire is 40 MBPS and USB 1.1 is 12 MBPS."

I never said that usb was not slow. Yes it is slow but no enough to make my life a living ****. I have a brand new iPod 5 that I'm using with a very old iMac and I'm enjoying it very much.

"Since you have 30/60GB ipod, you should not have to be uploading bunches of songs all the time, therefore, not a problem."

And about loading stuff to it. I will be doing it every day. I listen to about 10 hrs of podcast a day. : ) I just thought the way every one was mad about firewire, that it was good to post something other then a down side about this. I think people just need to understand that yes it is slow, but it is not going to make your life a living ****.
just my .2

I meant 400 MPBS for FW.

Hey, if it works for ya' great!

I think I figured out the whole idea behind this idiotic move to remove firewire on the 5G ipod. USB 2.0 is backed by Intel, and Intel chips have problems with the bit exchange rate used under firewire. (Firewire requires PC users to install drivers that in their opinion have no use for them.) Apple is switching to Intel chips and by removing firewire on the ipod their goal is to make all Apple user to by new machines and the next generation machines from now on will all have Intel chips in them. Computers using Intel chips are known have problems when trying link to HP and Sun Unix servers. The Intel chips require byte swapping which produces gibberish out of non-text files. Ask any scientist, Computer or software engineer, this is a major problem. If Apple wanted 64-bit PC chips they should have made a deal with AMD (which already has them in production) instead of having Intel manfacture them. AMD chips like Intel have High speed capacity and are energy efficient. An old chinese saying goes "The enemy of my enemy is my friend". That way they could stick to Intel and Microsoft by increasing the stock of their rival AMD. Now most of you will quote that Jobs had copies of OS X running on Intel chips with the help of the NeXt team. If this is true reason for the removal of Firewire then Apple has lost a loyal fan for rest of my life.

Mark, actually the people who buy them don't come here to read first as evidenced by my wife, who bought me a new iPod for Xmas. I was excited until I got home today. I plopped it in my dock only to be told "firewire is not supported"??? ***? After searching I see that piece of information was omitted by the punk kid at the Apple store when my wife bought it. Mind you she wouldn't have known the difference between FireWire and USB 1.1, but when she asked him if it would work with our G4 iMac, you would think Apple would have trained them better so they would at least mention that the transfer rate is going to be slower. So I am returning it as soon as I possibly can. I refuse to upgrade (read spend $1200+ on a new iMac) simply to transfer songs and video at a rate that I have been accustomed to. Apple you Suck!

Chris, it doesn't specifically mention on the box that it doesn't support FireWire, and the punk at Apple didn't advise that either, just focused on taking cash and ignoring questions.

Not trying to be a smart aleck here but when you purchase something, do you read the label to what it does NOT work with?
No because there are not many products which list what they do NOT work with (unless it is a hazard, such as mixing chlorine bleach and ammonia).

it doesn't specifically mention on the box that it doesn't support FireWire,
If they had to list everything it does NOT work with, well you could not lift the box.
"Caution: iPod does NOT work with;
Road Flares, swimming pools, jello, termites, gasoline engines, hurricanes, Linux," ad infinitum.

and the punk at Apple didn't advise that either, just focused on taking cash and ignoring questions.
So your wife specifically asked if it worked with FireWire, he ignored her and she purchased it anyway?

It now makes sense,
will now look into an usb upgrade on my daughters
PB12.

I'm afraid the only way of upgrading the 867 MHz Alu Powerbook 12" to USB2 is to buy a new powerbook, Thomas.

Cheers

Rod

If they had to list everything it does NOT work with, well you could not lift the box.

THis is a rather different situation, though, Chris. The point here is that iPods always have worked with firewire in the past. Mac users with a long history of iPod use particularly had a pretty reasonable expectation that the iPod would still be firewire compatible. Heck, for the first part of their life they would ONLY work with firewire.

It seems fair enough to me, under these circumstances, for people to expect that a change as substantial as this would be mentioned on the packaging. It is really is a very different situation from the other "cautions" you suggest. I would also expect sales staff to be well enough trained to make the matter clear to potential purchasers. I knew the situation already, but I certainly wasn't asked anything at all about the suitability of my computers when I purchased three gen 5 iPods for people as Christmas presents. It would have been better consumer oriented sales practice if I had been. Caveat emptor is all very well, but people have come to expect a bit better than this from Apple.

Under the circumstances, whatever the merits of the actual decision to move to USB2 only (and I can see pluses and minuses here), I can readily understand quite a few longstanding Apple customers being upset about the matter. These sorts of changes always generate some 'heat" (as quite a few of us with an inventory of SCSI peripherals when it gave way to firewire will remember!). Trying to tell them that its fine that they can not use the new iPod effectively with their 2 year old computer is never going to be a convincing line! I reckon all we can really offer people here over this change is some well deserved sympathy.



Cheers

Rod

Sooooo, for all the PC users that found installing a Firewire card actually made their iPod connect more reliably... they all had non-Intel chips in them? 🙂

And if their goal is to make me buy a new machine...well, what I ACTUALLY did was buy a PCMCIA card. Wow! I've foiled Apple!! Unfortunately, Apple still wins because I do want a new PowerBook with better graphics chips and a faster processor. AH! So THAT'S why they keep making their products better, they want me to upgrade!

Darn it all!

Does anyone think this will work?

http://www.pixela-1.com/captycable/



iMac G4 Flat Panet Mac OS X (10.3.9)

Nice idea, but I doubt it Gilbert.

Firstly it sounds as if it is really a "one way" device, for shifting stuff from a mini-DV camera to a PC with a USB.

Secondly the software sounds as if it is Windows specific.

Thirdly, it apparently won't be available until March, 2006!

Cheers

Rod

They don't have an FAQ, but it seems to be software for the PC that emulates a Firewire connection for PC's that don't have them but DO have a USB 2 connection.

So, no. Essentially, it's a cable with USB at one end and Firewire at the other. Without the software, it'd be useless.

One other note on this subject , wonder how much this has impacted the resale of older Mac's like iMac's and iBooks that cant be upgraded that only have firewire and USB1.1 , is Apple going to help out if we want to upgrade to a newer system with USB 2 because that why i got a Mac it had Firewire on it so i could connect my first Gen iPod , You think if apple wanted to take out the firewire controler they could make some kind of external controler you could use it with the dock connecter so that all the older macs could connect at high speed also. My two cents

You think if apple wanted to take out the firewire controler they could make some kind of external controler you could use it with the dock connecter so that all the older macs could connect at high speed also.
Apple is in it to make money.
Rather than support old computers or old iPods (which they make no money from), they would rather you get a new one.