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Having update issue

I'm stuck in some horrible screen telling me to connect my iphone to itunes after i attempted to update to the new software. I've turned off my antivirus/rebooted/tried a different usb cable and port all for nothing. I will try and uninstall itunes and reinstall it because that is another thing that was suggested but I'm wondering will I lose my sync data when I uninstall?

iPhone OS 3.0.1

Posted on Feb 4, 2010 11:20 PM

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Feb 8, 2010 5:06 AM in response to okoboko

One more thing I tried was to copy the iPhone backup folder (not the iTunes folder) to a second PC with iTunes already on (login to iTunes and authorised computer first!) and then put the iPhone in DFU mode while connected to the PC. Once the OS was restored, I picked the appropriate backup (that I'd done on 4th Feb).

This worked fine, my iPhone was restored with all my settings, email, calendar etc, however because I didn't copy the content across, the iPhone was devoid of any apps or iPod content. Oops. However, all was not lost because when I downloaded some apps that I'd already purchased before, I found that all their application data was already on the iPhone. In otherwords, restoring from a backup copied all settings and application data, just not my applications and music.

This means that I now have a solution. It's drastic but it will work. It will mean I'll have to copy my entire iTunes folder from my current PC to the other PC, and then restore from a working backup.

I called Apple Care just in case there was another way round this, but he said I really have tried everything that they can suggest. One more thing left to try is to create a new Windows user and see if that resolves the recovery mode USB driver issue, but if that doesn't work I will have to do the drastic solution above.

Once I've done this tonight I'll report back how it went and detail the steps. It means my iTunes will be run off a different PC, but if it works, great.

Boz

Feb 12, 2010 10:43 AM in response to jjkboswell

Installed OS 3.1.3
Install gave me an error
iPhone no longer recognized by iTunes
Device Manager showed 2 listings of Apple Recovery
iPhone itself was stuck in Recovery Mode (picture plugging into iTunes)

I don't think this issue is OS-specific. I'm using Windows 7 and everyone else is reporting various other OS's having this problem, so I think it's happening on all Operating Systems. However, I do think it is OS related, meaning Apple iTunes/iPhone software and OS software are not communicating correctly.

I just loaded OS 3.1.3 on my iPhone this week, and the update stopped midway through, gave me an error (sorry, forget the error number, thought I could just quickly recover from backup so I ignored it) ... then after clicking "ok" on the error window my iphone disappeared from iTunes. I could not get iTunes to recognize it after that. Nor did my iphone show up on the computer drives listing like it always does. The iphone screen itself was stuck on the picture to plug into iTunes (recovery mode). So my iphone essentially was lost. I attempted all the common fixes, everything in this thread I tried, including the 10-second button rule, I won't bore everyone with the specifics, it's all listed in this thread. Did them all. The only thing that worked was jjkboswell's fix of hooking it to another computer with iTunes. I did this (Windows XP computer) and it worked. It restored the iphone to factory default and then loaded OS 3.1.3 ... but now I needed my iphone backup so I could restore all my old data and music and apps. Also, this was a friend's computer I was borrowing, I didn't want to have to borrow the same friend's computer every time I want to sync my iphone. So here is how I recovered my computer with iTunes and ultimately restored my iphone with the backup on that computer. (This is all Windows 7, so any other version of Windows you have the same options just might have to take a different route to get to the folder or option; unsure about the Mac guys)

1) Deleted iTunes and all Apple software completely, (you can't half-do it, make sure all components are deleted specifically as described, in the exact order, perform all the file deletions, recycle bin empty, reboots, as listed on this page)
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1923

Okay, let's say you get to a point where the OS doesn't allow you to delete something. Don't skip that step! Download and use msicuu.exe to force deletion of that program/file. (I'm sure Apple has a similar program for Mac users)
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290301

2) Reinstall iTunes (FYI, Quicktime is also installed subsequently, it is a required program if you run iTunes)
http://www.apple.com/itunes/download/

If the iTunes install aborts midway through, go back up to Step 1 and repeat the entire process. I know when it aborts it tells you "nothing has been installed or changed on your system" but if you redo Step 1 you will find that is not true, you will need to delete some programs and files then you can go back and repeat the install process again

3) Now comes the critical part, Device Manager. Every OS is a little different, how to get to Device Manager, if you don't know, just Google it. I'm on Windows 7, I right-click the "My Computer" icon on my desktop, then click "Manage", then on the left panel I click "Device Manager", now you will be in the Device Manager and you have a listing of all your hardware components

Plug in your iphone. Now you will see 2 listings that say something like "Apple Recovery" Mode, right-click, then click "uninstall", you need to do this to both, they should disappear now

Next, you will expand the "Universal Serial Bus Adapters" at the bottom, which will give you a long listing, and look for the USB related devices. My laptop has 2 USB ports, both are called "USB Composite Device" in this listing. This is the tricky part because everybody is going to have different hardware from different manufacturers and the listing is going to be called something different but if you can figure out which are your USB ports then you are in business! I right-click the "USB Composite Device" the one associated with the port I have just plugged my iphone into, and I click "Update Driver Software", which then takes you to the window where you can manually direct it to the folder where you have the iphone Device Driver stored. (FYI the iphone Device Driver was loaded when you loaded iTunes in Step 1) The default directory for the device driver is
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Apple\Mobile Device Support\Drivers
C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Apple\Mobile Device Support\Drivers (for 64-bit systems)

If you want to verify the Device Driver was loaded, navigate on your computer to the directory above and you should see the file USBAAPL.SYS

Once the driver has finished updating, the "USB Composite Device" (or whatever yours is called) will disappear and you will now see "Apple Mobile Device USB" ... the iphone Device Driver is installed!

4) Now fire up iTunes. This is a new load, so you may need to sign-in. Verify your old backup is still there, if you had one.
Edit
Preferences
Devices tab
You will now see all your old backups listed here (FYI ... deleting and reloading iTunes does not delete your backups, they are safe, as you can see here)
Okay, feel free to close the Preferences window now

Your iphone may or may not be recognized by iTunes ... if not, unplug your iphone and plug it back in, see if iTunes registers your iPhone now. If it does, go ahead and choose to recover from the backup you have saved or you may reset to factory default. You shouldn't have to load OS 3.1.3 if you ended up reseting to default from another computer like I did before Step 1, OS 3.1.3 will already be loaded ... but if not then you may have to load OS 3.1.3 and quite possibly you could get another crash and have to start over, this time recover the iphone from another computer first, then start at Step 1 and go through the steps.

If iTunes gives you "iphone could not be restored error 1602" then same thing, start at Step 1 and make sure you are following each step exactly as outlined (I got this error first time through because I tried to shortcut it, then did it properly next time around and all worked fine)

if iTunes gives you "itunes could not connect to this iphone because an unknown occurred (0xE800000A)", Congratulations! you are almost there! (this is a good thing, it means your iphone is now recognized but one last bug needs to be worked out)
unplug your iphone
exit iTunes
Go to C:/Program Files/iTunes/
right-click the file iTunes.exe
click Properties
click "Compatibility" tab
under "Privilege Level" check-mark "Run this program as an administrator"
click Apply
click OK
now, back in C:/Program Files/iTunes
double left-click iTunes.exe to start iTunes
plug in your iphone (it should now be recognized)
once you have verified your iphone is working with iTunes again, exit iTunes and do the same steps as above, this time uncheck "Run this program as an administrator (iTunes only needs this kickstart the first time, after that you can run iTunes as a regular user), and verify that iTunes is still working, make sure you verify your desktop shortcut is also working still

That's it, that's all the steps I performed to recover my iphone and my iTunes install on my computer. I think ultimately it came down to multiple bugs hitting me at once, and the combined steps you see above are a compilation of each repair as I went through the recovery stage. I hope this helps someone having the same issue. I went with a reset factory-default iphone for several days and I now realize how dependent I am on this little device and the data I carry in it so I feel for you if you are stuck like I was. Thanks to the previous posters in this thread for giving me a jumpstart, this thread was very helpful ... jjkboswell, much thanks, you had a lot of good input in your posts.

Feb 12, 2010 1:47 PM in response to JJLee

FYI the iPhone OS 3.1.3 update bricked two brand new iPhone 3GS with a 1604 error. The phones were stuck in Recovery Mode and restore would always fail with the 1604 error.

Each were updated on different computers running different versions of Windows (Vista and XP) that had the latest iTunes installed that day, with no other USB devices other than mouse. No security software was enabled. Rebooting and removing other USB drives didn't help.

After following most of the steps in the Apple "stuck in recovery mode" article and "1604 error" article, called Apple support who gave up and recommended replacement. I went to the AT&T store who were able to install the OS somehow. The AT&T store people said other people had also been coming in with bricked phone after the 3.1.3 upgrade.

The fact that the problem happened on two different iphones with two different computers with different versions of Windows and fresh iTunes installs makes me think there could be an intermittent problem with the iPhone OS 3.1.3 update?

VERY disappointing that your expensive phone "bricks" due to an incremental update. VERY disappointing that iTunes cannot revert the iphone back to the previous iPhone OS if the update fails. You lose your phone until the problem is fixed.

Disappointing that (according to Apple) AT&T can charge you a $20 restocking fee to get a new phone if the Apple OS update bricks your brand new phone, and/or the Apple store can replace your new phone with a refurbished phone.

Feb 12, 2010 5:00 PM in response to jamescagney90210

I love you guys - it worked!!

I have been having exactly the same problem and after 4 hrs of searching the internet I came across this thread.

JJLee - I carried out your instructions from point 3 (as I thought I had the latest version of iTunes due to a download earlier) but I then got the error message 'iphone could not be restored error 1602' - so I then followed your steps to the letter. And everything worked sweet - I didn't even need to use step three.

To all other users - I would suggest the first point of call is Step 1 as detailed by JJLee - A proper uninstall of iTunes seemed to have fixed the problem. This is the first time I have ever come across the link to the complete uninstall process - thank you JJLee.

It has taken me about 1.5 hours to complete the full process but it has definitely been worth it (and a good bottle of wine has helped).

Lets hope that Apple review this particular thread and the information provided by all is very enlightening, helpful and could save many people alot of torturous hours.

Caz

Feb 12, 2010 10:11 PM in response to JJLee

Thank you so very much! i only had to uninstall and re-install itunes once, then tried to reconnect to my iphone to no avail...after wasting my time looking for a new driver, i got the brainy idea of restarting my pc. once i restarted my pc, my computer recognized the new driver instantly. i started itunes, and was able to get my phone back up and running. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU everyone, and especially you JJLee for all your help..i am no techy so if i can figure this out, there's hope yet for you all! but to be honest, this is a real pain in the ***...apple should know better!

Feb 13, 2010 1:22 AM in response to applegyal

This user group and forum are awesome and I am extremely grateful for the information you all have provided.

I'm still stuck. Restore just seems to hang after uninstalls and successful driver update.

I am also STUNNED, SHOCKED, ANGERED and AMAZED by how this release has been handled by Apple. I have a call scheduled with service tomorrow via landline. If any other solutions arise from that conversation I'll be sure to post them here. Happy days...

Feb 13, 2010 5:55 PM in response to ryantholmes

Okay, back in business. Had 1.5 hour conversation with Liz at Apple help desk this morning. She was great however we were unsuccessful. Took laptop and phone to Apple store. Cool people, many thanks to David. Spent an hour plus trying to get the update to run from my laptop including the instructions descibed earlier in the threads above. Final solution was to download the OS update onto my iPhone from a Mac at the store then sync phone to my laptop as a new install.

Tired...but working again. Good luck to all.

Feb 15, 2010 6:23 AM in response to JJLee

Help!!
I've followed JJLee's instructions, but now cant get iTunes to reinstall! When i run the .exe file it tell me there is an error and wont run. When i save the .exe file it will not install properly.

Does anyone have any ideas? I've followed the deleting instructions to the letter? Is there anything else I can do? My iphone is completely useless!

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