Does any one know any way to get itunes to sort by the actual date, not just the year? I realize I would have to input the dates manually, somewhere. Has anyone done this before?
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You could use the Grouping field to put the dates in and sort on that.
The GROUPING sounded like it would be perfect, at first, but it doesn't seem like it will work...
The goal is to sort each artist's album in chronological order. I use the ALBUM BY ARTIST sort option (which I thought it was great when they added that feature), but the problem is...
With ALBUM BY ARTIST selected... it will look to sort ARTIST first (good), then look to the YEAR (good), but then it doesn't sort the grouping, it sorts the ALBUM alphabetically next, automatically.
The goal is to sort each artist's album in chronological order. I use the ALBUM BY ARTIST sort option (which I thought it was great when they added that feature), but the problem is...
With ALBUM BY ARTIST selected... it will look to sort ARTIST first (good), then look to the YEAR (good), but then it doesn't sort the grouping, it sorts the ALBUM alphabetically next, automatically.
**** ABOVE: I mean't ALBUM BY YEAR not "Album by Artist"
Tagging (sorting) and then playing back your albums or singles in chronological order is easy. Some of the fields you can use for this are the Comments, Grouping, or Composer fields. Most people have their Comments and Grouping fields already cluttered-up with enough data to categorize it as a short story, but for your situation to work, the dates have to be entered in the beginning of the field. Therefore, I choose to use the Composer field. Apologies to the composers involved, but if there is a song in my library that's a 4 star or above,
+*I probably already know who wrote it*+, Plus lots of times, the composer field comes tagged with gibberish or a one-hit-wonder unknown composer. As far as my needs go, there is no information in that field that would ever need to be saved, then recalled later in a Smart Playlist, but that's just me.
Starting from scratch, I open my library, select all my songs and right-click them, and in the "Get info/Multiple Item Information" dialog box, click the composer field (which should be empty) then click > OK. Now that all the Composer fields are completely blank, I add info. to the albums/singles I desire. In your case, you would highlight all the tracks in a particular album. Then right-click those songs so you are adding the same data to multiple items. If your album was released on Janurary 1, 2010 you would enter it as 2010-1-1 and so on and so on for each desired album. Then to play them back chronologically, you would click the Composer heading to sort them as oldest album at the top of the playlist window, followed by the next recent one. Another caveat to having the year first is you can do a smart playlist with the criteria: "Composer starts with" (1999, for example) to pull up that year only and play those back chronologically.
With the "-" in the year or any other character seperator, you can also do a smart playlist with the criteria "Composer contains "-". This of course will pull up +any and all+ of the albums/singles you want to play back chronologically and leave any of the actual composer info. for the other albums/songs you want to leave in.
I hope this works out for you.
P.S. If you want to keep the composer info in that field, first use the "Cut" command on the composer's name, put in your "date of release" info.at the beginning of the field, then paste back the composer info. at the end of the Composer field.
+*I probably already know who wrote it*+, Plus lots of times, the composer field comes tagged with gibberish or a one-hit-wonder unknown composer. As far as my needs go, there is no information in that field that would ever need to be saved, then recalled later in a Smart Playlist, but that's just me.
Starting from scratch, I open my library, select all my songs and right-click them, and in the "Get info/Multiple Item Information" dialog box, click the composer field (which should be empty) then click > OK. Now that all the Composer fields are completely blank, I add info. to the albums/singles I desire. In your case, you would highlight all the tracks in a particular album. Then right-click those songs so you are adding the same data to multiple items. If your album was released on Janurary 1, 2010 you would enter it as 2010-1-1 and so on and so on for each desired album. Then to play them back chronologically, you would click the Composer heading to sort them as oldest album at the top of the playlist window, followed by the next recent one. Another caveat to having the year first is you can do a smart playlist with the criteria: "Composer starts with" (1999, for example) to pull up that year only and play those back chronologically.
With the "-" in the year or any other character seperator, you can also do a smart playlist with the criteria "Composer contains "-". This of course will pull up +any and all+ of the albums/singles you want to play back chronologically and leave any of the actual composer info. for the other albums/songs you want to leave in.
I hope this works out for you.
P.S. If you want to keep the composer info in that field, first use the "Cut" command on the composer's name, put in your "date of release" info.at the beginning of the field, then paste back the composer info. at the end of the Composer field.
podcartuneist wrote:
Tagging (sorting) and then playing back your albums or singles in chronological order is easy. Some of the fields you can use for this are the Comments, Grouping, or Composer fields. Most people have their Comments and Grouping fields already cluttered-up with enough data to categorize it as a short story, but for your situation to work, the dates have to be entered in the beginning of the field. Therefore, I choose to use the Composer field. Apologies to the composers involved, but if there is a song in my library that's a 4 star or above,
+*I probably already know who wrote it*+, Plus lots of times, the composer field comes tagged with gibberish or a one-hit-wonder unknown composer. As far as my needs go, there is no information in that field that would ever need to be saved, then recalled later in a Smart Playlist, but that's just me.
Starting from scratch, I open my library, select all my songs and right-click them, and in the "Get info/Multiple Item Information" dialog box, click the composer field (which should be empty) then click > OK. Now that all the Composer fields are completely blank, I add info. to the albums/singles I desire. In your case, you would highlight all the tracks in a particular album. Then right-click those songs so you are adding the same data to multiple items. If your album was released on Janurary 1, 2010 you would enter it as 2010-1-1 and so on and so on for each desired album. Then to play them back chronologically, you would click the Composer heading to sort them as oldest album at the top of the playlist window, followed by the next recent one. Another caveat to having the year first is you can do a smart playlist with the criteria: "Composer starts with" (1999, for example) to pull up that year only and play those back chronologically.
With the "-" in the year or any other character seperator, you can also do a smart playlist with the criteria "Composer contains "-". This of course will pull up +any and all+ of the albums/singles you want to play back chronologically and leave any of the actual composer info. for the other albums/songs you want to leave in.
I hope this works out for you.
P.S. If you want to keep the composer info in that field, first use the "Cut" command on the composer's name, put in your "date of release" info.at the beginning of the field, then paste back the composer info. at the end of the Composer field.
HAH...I guess I misunderstood your question...good thing for me I re-read it before logging out(insert embarrassed emicon here!). Sorting albums by the month is both original and unusual.
I guess in your case, you would do everything I mentioned above, but denote Janurary 1, 2010 as 1-1-2010, which would play all your January albums first including any albums you have from the 1940's or 50's...actually, not a bad little twist!
Sidenote:
This brings up a good question from me: Is there a way to edit or delete a reply after it's been posted???
@podcartuneinst: thank you for the response - I don't think that you misunderstood me (it shouldn't be THAT unusual, just a bit music geeky) - I will clarify...
I want all my ARTIST's to be in alphabetical order first, then all of the ARTIST's releases (ALBUM's) to be in true chronological order. Itunes' "sort ALBUM BY YEAR" feature does this, except the only flaw is if an artist puts out multiple releases within a year (which is fairly common, especially in the case of singles/EP's), itunes will automatically sort those albums alphabetically, not chronologically.
What you're saying about putting the date (probably like 2010-01-01) in GROUPING or COMPOSER field is on the same track as what is was thinking. But I don't have time to research the release date for every single entry and the SORT by XXXXX, I'd still probably still want to use the ALBUM BY YEAR, and then I thought MAYBE ONE of the other fields would "sort next". Does that make sense? It would make more sense if Itunes had ALBUM BY RELEASE DATE as a sorting option, but I'm looking for a work-around.
I want all my ARTIST's to be in alphabetical order first, then all of the ARTIST's releases (ALBUM's) to be in true chronological order. Itunes' "sort ALBUM BY YEAR" feature does this, except the only flaw is if an artist puts out multiple releases within a year (which is fairly common, especially in the case of singles/EP's), itunes will automatically sort those albums alphabetically, not chronologically.
What you're saying about putting the date (probably like 2010-01-01) in GROUPING or COMPOSER field is on the same track as what is was thinking. But I don't have time to research the release date for every single entry and the SORT by XXXXX, I'd still probably still want to use the ALBUM BY YEAR, and then I thought MAYBE ONE of the other fields would "sort next". Does that make sense? It would make more sense if Itunes had ALBUM BY RELEASE DATE as a sorting option, but I'm looking for a work-around.
iTunes has its own set of features allowing you to sort, so you're stuck with working with those (for example, I'd love to be able to specify only show duplicates from the same album in the view duplicates window, but no -go). There's a lot of work-arounds, as suggested by other posts, but then you have to be willing to put in the effort to make it work. Does music from the ITMS even have full release dates by day and month? If it does, you could use some of Dougscripts to see if you could shuffle and concatenate them into a field such as grouping to do what you want.
What's ITMS? a database of track info etc. for itunes? If so, I don't know if there is a release date there - I would guess not. I can look them up when I add a CD etc though, or just when theres 2 albums that came out in a given year.
I'm not sure what Dougscripts are...
I'm not sure what Dougscripts are...
ITMS = iTunes Music Store
[Dougscripts|http://dougscripts.com/itunes/scripts/scriptcount.php?sortBy=Name&o p=y] - Many itunes scripts
[Dougscripts|http://dougscripts.com/itunes/scripts/scriptcount.php?sortBy=Name&o p=y] - Many itunes scripts
I have been looking for itunes to add this exact feature for YEARS......
Many artists in the '70's were much more productive than current bands and they could easily release 2 albums in one year.
I have yet to see a good way to handle this issue, I'm sure it's annoying many music fans with clean iTunes catalogs. Can't Apple add a check button of some kind in iTunes?
Many artists in the '70's were much more productive than current bands and they could easily release 2 albums in one year.
I have yet to see a good way to handle this issue, I'm sure it's annoying many music fans with clean iTunes catalogs. Can't Apple add a check button of some kind in iTunes?
The application MetaX (which can be opened from within iTunes to edit tags) allows you to add the full date (yyyy-mm-dd) into the year field. I haven't tested though if iTunes is able to sorts tracks of the same year by full date.
Organizing Albums in Chronologic Order: by month?