rSAP (remote SIM Access Protocol) support via Bluetooth for iphone?

Is this why my iphone wont stay connected to my new VW golf tdi? It works wonderfully and the sound is great, but every time I get in the car I have to go to the general preferences panel and highlight the vw bluetooth to get it to connect. It never asked me for a password so I never was able to enter one.
Anyone have any ideas how to fix that?
thanks,
Katarina

US VWs don't use rSAP. Do you connect your phone to a bluetooth headset when you're not in the car?

US VWs don't use rSAP.

So what. You keep posting this over and over again. The US is a mere 5% of the worlds population.

As your posts do not help anyone, especially on this side of the Atlantic, it might actually a good idea to stop cluttering this thread with those meaningless replies.

There are more than 450 people that have posted a feature request for rSAP on the Android forums so far.
( http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=4402&q=rsap&sort=stars%20id&co lspec=ID%20Type%20Status%20Owner%20Summary%20Stars)

To me that is a clear sign that this is really important to a lot of people and should therefore be on Apple's To-Do list.

Regards

d

The US is the biggest market for the iPhone and rSAP is a relatively small percentage of iPhone users in Europe. It sounds like you guys need to complain to VW about getting with the program and moving to a standard supported in larger markets.

I don't really care what is posted on the Android forums and 450 posts is pretty insignificant compared against 50 million+ iPhones.

I'm sure the European market is fairly comparative in size to the US market for iPhones and if it's not, RSAP is one of the many reasons WHY it's not.

We don't need to complain to VW to "move to a standard supported in larger markets", VW's have had the old Bluetooth HFP technology for years but they've moved on because it's antiquated, it's called progress.

Consumers in the UK and Germany especially tend to upgrade computer chip based devices more frequently than US consumers. Whereas my first comment in this post is a guess, this I can back up with statistics. Hence the reason that our car exports come to the US with the old HFP protocol based car kits.

Unless something better is invented RSAP technology WILL come to the US, we're just asking Apple to bump it up their priorities list, Apple have already stated they are hoping to increase the business users market for iPhone in the future, this would be one obvious step to take.

At the end of the day this is just typical of Apple, they always take ages to implement new technology so they can get it just right and make it a more pleasant experience for the users. I'm grateful for that, I love all my Apple products but this small addition is just taking too long!

Unfortunately we can do nothing more than keep sending feedback to Apple and hope it comes soon.

Hello,

Do you know if the new iPhone 4 has rSAP?

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2461710

Message was edited by: [MaccA]

I just wanted to seize the opportunity to bump this thread to the top again:

Last week I have bought a Samsung i9000 Galaxy S and apart from this thing being an awesome Smartphone, it has rSAP (first Android phone to have it!) and works with my Audi and VW hands-free kits. (Someone looked at the 500 posts requesting it.)
I'll check back in 2 years, when my contract has expired, if Apple has started to listen to its customers. Have fun with the iPhone 4 Antenna issues, the limited availability, crippled multitasking and all the other Apple politics.
I am off ...

Max

P.S.: Enjoy the great replies on this thread. I rather deal with android geeks...

*rSAP is not a hands-free profile. It does not add external speakers and microphone, like a hands free device.*

*Instead it uses a full-blown GSM phone device, which is normally perfectly integrated into the car multi-media system, allows you to use the cars Sat-Nav touch-screen, has an external antenna, can be controlled from the steering wheel - in short everything you really want from a phone in your car.*

I've got all these features with my iPhone in my VW via HFP using the 1Z0035729B bluetooth module. Everything is perfectly integrated in the dashboard, steering wheel buttons, RNS510 screen, etc.

I agree with the fact that reception quality is better with RSAP since a more powerfull transceiver and external antenna are used, although in most areas the iPhone in your pocket will give you enough signal strength.

With RSAP there is also the advantage of being able to send/receive SMS using the car built-in keyboard although I don't think is wise doing so while driving.

What I would like to know is (in case someday RSAP is available in the iPhone) if you will be able to continue receiving e-mails using the 3G network, while the SIM card is being "kidnapped" by the car system.

Message was edited by: carlosrr

rSAP basically "borrows" the IMEI number from your phone and uses it in its own built-in phone to get access to the mobile phone network using your number and contract. In the process it tells your phone to "shut up" meaning it turns the GSM/GPRS radio off.

The big disadvantage to this is that your phone (e.g. iPhone) loses its data connection and cannot receive emails. This can be a problem if, for example, running a sat nav application on your phone which gets real time traffic updates. The sat nav will still work but it will have no data connection to get the real time information.

The two big advantages of rSAP (as I see it) is the better signal strength achieved by using the vehicles antenna instead of the phones antenna and the increased battery life as your phone is not constantly hopping from cell to cell. The signal issue may not be a problem in some countries but here in the UK we have very varied terrain in a small area so holding a conversation whilst driving can be difficult.

Thanks for putting this so clear [MaccA]

So, to the ones asking for RSAP in the iPhone, you should be aware that you would stop receiving e-mails while sitting in your car.

Not really...

The new Audi and BMW RSAP Devices provide Bluetooth networking to every device in the car such as smartphones and laptops. You can even pair a bluetooth headset with the onboard unit if you want to have some privacy during your calls.

Regards

Max

The antenna issue is greatly exaggerated in my opinion. I have a hard time reproducing the results even when I try. Never lost a call yet. The multitasking isn't crippled on the 4, it is AWESOME! No noticeable decline in battery life what-so-ever.

no rSAP ? No iPhone for me !!!

Moving to android is easier than changing a Porsche or a VW ...