The eMac: The good days of an eMac

In this discussion. I would like eMac owners to post what they thought about the eMac when it was in its prime time. Is it a good system to buy now? Or do you consider it old?

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Posted on Mar 30, 2010 2:23 PM

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Apr 11, 2010 2:34 AM in response to DomB85

G'day,

Yes, they're a great door into Mac OS X. There was problems with the eMac, not just the commonly heard capacitor issues later on - there were issues earlier too, but all in all, these are great machines.

Would you be running a 5-8 year old PC as well as you can run an eMac?!

As with all of Apple's "consumer" products, upgrades are basically not considered by the manufacturer. They make it reasonably easy to add more RAM, but otherwise...

Thing is, as I see it... Ok - say I wanted a better graphics card, to run some great game... so, if I had a PC, I could just open it up, and instal it. Sure. But, now the CPU speed isn't really fast enough either... put in a new motherboard - or daughterboard. But, now it needs a bigger fan... and, well, could use more RAM, and you know, the hard drive is old and slow and full...

So, you just buy a Mac... when it doesn't do all the things you need... you sell it, for a pretty good price compared to similar aged PCs, and then buy a new (or newer) Mac. 🙂

Apr 21, 2010 9:07 AM in response to wfh2ii94

I've had my eMac since June of 2004 and it's running like a champ. I was fortunate that my big E didn't suffer from the leaky compressors or whatever they were and even now, as beat up as it looks it's still going strong. The only thing that's been a problem is that my ol' boy's been left behind in the technical department (powerpc, really dinky hard drive etc) so like and idiot I bought a Windoze about three years ago cos I couldn't afford to get another Mac. My husband bought it for me as a birthday present and at the time I was happy with it...my E only had a combo drive on it, so I was able to make dvds, store stuff (320GB hard drive) etc. and do alot of things I couldn't on the mac. Well, here we are 3 years on, the day after my birthday and that PC is now sitting in a corner completely useless while I'm back on my E. The ****** thing started shutting itself off about two months ago, causing me to wipe and reup the hard drive no less than 80 times in the past 3 weeks...it's now at the point where I can't even do a reinstall cos it crashes right in the middle of the boot, causing me to start all over again. You have no idea just how much heartache that f$#%ing machine has caused both me and my husband, especially yesterday when I couldn't download any EPL matches for him, not to mention that the gift he bought me from his heart turned out to be the biggest disappointment imaginable. Needless to say I've come to this conclusion...I don't care how much a Mac will cost me, I don't care how long it's gonna take for me to save up for one, I will never ever EVER buy a PC again. I don't give a monkeys if they've got 'em marked down 80% off, I don't care if giving 'em away for free and throwing a house in for good measure, I will NEVER USE A WINDOWS PC AGAIN. This eMac has suffered thru two major moves, six months in storage, drops on the floor, cats using it as a keen place to sleep or jumping off of it like a ****** trampoline and never once did it ever give me the problems that stupid POS pc has given me. Let this be a cautionary tale to all you guys out there who might have a passing thought about going Windows instead of Mac..DON'T.

May 7, 2010 9:20 AM in response to wfh2ii94

Having used both the 1.42 and the 1.25 models, I personally favor them as the best Macs of all time!
That's a strong statement but here's why I say it.

(1) a preference for glass CRT over plastic LCD and later lightweight, thin screens due to sharpness, clarity and stronger true colors. The drawback here is the weight of the CRT. G4 eMacs are desktop models.

(2) preference for the PPC processor - it may not be as fast as the Intel models but I like the results of video and audio work done with the G4. The Mac lost its individuality when Intel-inside models appeared. The G5s in many of the iMacs had overheating problems and were the excuse for the processor switch which ultimately made the Mac "Windows-compatible." The latest Amiga was reported to be using the Motorola G6 - has Motorola found a way to make them run cooler in small packages? What would the Mac world be like had Apple worked with Motorola to overcome the problems and kept producing G-series processor models?

(3) preference for Tiger over Leopard - this is a good thing as Tiger is fast and suited to the G4 and Leopard runs faster on the Intel. The new look and features of Leopard were not enough to convince me to upgrade and I like the option to run older Classic software. The later the Mac OS X system, the more the features become tailored for Intel processors and the latest software and hardware. There is also the consideration that the later the software version, the more intrusive it is on personal privacy. This is true of operating systems and user software that collects personal information.

(4) preference for Tiger-compatible 3rd party software and budgetary restraints - I reached a point where I decided that I had spent enough money on computers, software and add-on hardware. I decided to stick with what I had and make it work for as long as possible. Also, I like a computer with an internal modem. And, I believe that the hardware inside a G4 eMac is of a higher quality than most of the hardware in later models of Mac and PC computers. The durability and longevity of newer computers is not what it once was.

(5) 1.25 with 2 gb memory may run faster than 1.42 with 2 gb - this is just a feeling with no benchmarks to back it up. Either way, with 2 gb, the G4 eMacs are fast enough to run multiple programs without significant slowdowns. The factory eMac hard drives are really not large enough for a lot of storage. That's better handled by a USB or FireWire external drive. The less space on the internal HD, the slower the system will run, so it's best to leave a lot of disc space for virtual memory. Yes, G4 eMacs will accept and recognize 2- 1 gb memory modules. The official Apple limit for the G4 eMac is below that but OWC, Low End Mac and other sources confirm the 2 gb max and many users are enjoying that extra memory when working with multiple programs and large files.

(5) Although I have the manuals and schematics for the G4 eMacs, working inside would probably be a bit tedious at times. One of the major drawbacks of Apple computers is that they are generally more difficult to work on from a tech point of view than most PCs, including laptop models. Apple builds them that way so that we will buy Apple Care and leave it to trained techs. The PPC models, no longer officially supported by Apple, are now in the domain of DIYers or techs who still work on the older models. The CRT discharge is a bit scary although I have done similar operations before. If ever necessary, I would approach it with great care. There is a lot of info available at websites and blogs about working inside an eMac. One guy, whose CRT went dark, extracted sufficient parts for a "headless eMac" viewed on an external flat-panel monitor. Should the need arise, feeding output to an external monitor and speakers, reading and writing with an external CD-DVD and booting from an external USB or FireWire drive can delay the opening of the case.

(6) Finally, I would recommend buying a G4 eMac even now because the prices are as low as they have been and they are still available. Most available models are refurbs and there are Mac stores and tech shops in many locations that sell them as well as parts and provide repair and tech support if needed. This is one of the good things about the Mac community - older Mac models are still for sale and there is a lot of support available for them. A large number of the early G5 iMacs had problems with bad capacitors and that, along with the overheating problems, is a strong point for not buying any of those models unless all the capacitors have been replaced. Most refurb jobs don't include a capacitor replacement. I worked with a first-generation Intel core solo iMac that had an overheating problem requiring a logic board replacement. When too much is packed inside too small an area, overheating and early failure of parts is a possibility.

May 7, 2010 9:21 AM in response to CityNetter2

No kidding! Since I wrote that last entry, that stupid bucket of bolts aka that ****** PC has gone completely belly up. We're talking hard drive, motherboard AND CPU all burnt to a crisp, and I gotta tell ya, I ain't happy. My husband is taking it even worse than I am, poor fella....he was the one that bought me that PoC in the first place, and now he can't watch his beloved footy OR his Dodgers baseball ( we don't have cable or satellite at the moment so I've been downloading the games for him) so not only do I lose the computer, but I have to endure my Scotsman sitting on the couch and staring at a blank TV screen with the saddest face that would give a bassett hound a run for it's money. There's a guy at his work who's gonna let us know if it's even worth fixing, but in all honesty I think it's gonna be a lost cause. In the meantime, I'm back on my eMac though due to the G4 chip and a harddrive that's not even 40 GBs it's really slow going. I'm also stuck with a major dilemma...as wonderful as Macs are, they're also EXPENSIVE and very much out of my realm of affordability. Of course I could try and save up for one, but A: I need it RIGHT NOW and B. it's almost impossible to save anything at the moment as we're going thru a rather nasty financial crunch. If I could finance one I'd do it in a heartbeat, but with credit like mine, any merchant looking at it would probably burst out laughing then hustle me out the front door so fast I wouldn't even leave a dust trail. Worse than that, I haven't found one single solitary store or website that has a layaway plan for Macs..not a one. Bummer, ain't it?

May 16, 2010 12:28 AM in response to wfh2ii94

I bought my eMac in 2002, from apple store in Chandler, AZ.

I paid for an eMac with the CD/DVD reader and writer; yet after calling the apple care time after time and still not being able to use my DVD writer, they figured they sold me one without the DVD writer... They put a DVD writer back in it and I said well ok...

However, briefly after using it like two years it stopped working. The screen was flickering and then rastor shift problems started and finally it completely went blank.

So I got myself an iBook, thinking that my serial number will be fixed. However, I am still waiting for the good old G82 serial numbers to be acknowledged. I don't know what the problem is. Noone told me other than telling me that it is going to cost me $500-$700 back in 2005... Maybe it is cheaper now.

And I still like apple for ease of use. I wish they acknowledged their problems and helped their loyal customers better.

About eMacs... well, they have so many problems, and noone acknowledges them. I will not buy one...

May 16, 2010 11:30 AM in response to Ceren Tunalioglu

eMacs do work better with the older software. They work okay with Tiger 10.4.11 but if you install the latest security updates and upgrades to iLife, Safari, etc., your computer may start to slow down or you may have some problems. Even though the updates have a PPC package or code, the emphasis in on making them work best on Intel machines. Maybe the PPC code was not written as carefully and Apple would like you to buy a new computer.

I bought an iMac Intel core solo - one of the first - and had a logic board failure due to overheating. The superdrive also failed due to all the heat in the box. Six months later, Apple released and iMac intel core duo for less money. I sold my iMac for as much as I paid for it.
Then, I bought a mac book intel core duo that had a superdrive failure due to heat in the small case.

There's not a Mac that doesn't have one kind of problem or another. But, the chances are the older the Mac, the more reliable, in general, that it is. The G4 1.25 and 1.42 eMacs have been the most reliable for me for the longest period of time. But Macs are better when then don't run all the time.
I've had more problems with a used 1.42 after a couple of years and running it round the clock for a few months. Recently, I found out that my 1.25 GHz may have the potentially bad caps in it. This was a bad problem for all computers - Macs and PCs. I don't want to believe that all the computer and peripheral manufacturers were suckered into buying bad caps and didn't know about it. But, I don't trust global corporations. This was so widespread that computer, slot cards, and just about every kind of external device or peripheral was affected. Maybe the manufacturers were conned. But, more likely, convinced to buy the buy ones so that their computer techs would make a bundle for the company and many people would buy new hardware. I missed the eMac recall because I didn't even know about the possibility of bad caps being in my 1.25 a few days ago. I never got an email or any kind of mail or phone call from Apple. Shame on Apple. I don't have time to monitor the discussion boards, blog and websites all day to find about potential problems. They swept this one under the rug until they had to deal with it - and they should have mailed a letter to every registered owner that they couldn't contact by email or phone.
I'm thinking about buying a cap replacement kit and doing the job myself. I found a web site where you can order most of the internal parts for an eMac but the price adds up to around a thousand dollars. And the $300 plus logic board probably still has the bad caps on it. Too much.

May 17, 2010 1:08 AM in response to hooterville

Wow... good luck with the cap replacement... I am not that tech savy... I am trying to now learn more about solutions to hardware problems than in my 20s... I guess it may help in the end, but just like you, I do not have the time to read every single thread on broken macs to catch warranty extensions and so on. I agree like many others that apple could have done a better job handling these problems...

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