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To buy, or Not to buy? That is the qeustion??

Before the Ipad came out, I was seriously considering getting a Netbook. I already have a Laptop and Desktop at home. Waiting for the Ipad 3g to come out and considering to buy the 64gb one. Have read reviews that all the Ipad is is a glorified Iphone. It no where compares to a netbook and a lot of people have been disappointed. I know it's not going to be like a laptop but I am looking to use it for school (word processing and such) as well as entertainment and personal use! Before I spring for $800 should I wait for something better or just go for it?? I hate being the guinny pig when something new comes out and spend soo much money on something where a year later a better one is out! Any adivice?

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Posted on Apr 7, 2010 9:30 PM

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Apr 11, 2010 11:43 PM in response to TiffanyNicole

Personally, I will wait until the next generation units come out. This 1st gen. model will probably be half the cost they are now. Also, they will have more features at most likely the same price. Early adopters always pay a premium price.

Apple could have easily put a camera and other features in this model. You can see where it's ready to be installed when you take this model apart. Apple's bread & butter is selling hardware and they will do anything to keep you buying the next model-- like with more features for the same cost.

I wanted a MacBook Air when they came out, but decided they were too pricey. When the second generation models came out, I bought a used (like brand new) 1st gen. model w/optional SuperDrive for only $800.00. For me, this Air will do a LOT more than an iPad and it's only 1.5 lbs heavier.

Now I'm not knocking the iPad here. It's a beautiful media consumption device, and I'm sure I will own one someday (just like the MacBook Air), but not quite yet. User uploaded file

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Apr 12, 2010 10:02 AM in response to Pier Rodelon

Of course you're right, Pier. It cannot yet compete on a certain high level with the PC. Perhaps it never completely will, I don't know. But I do believe much of it will come. Even in your list, you could do pretty much all those things with the iPad, though it's certainly true that it would be easier with a notebook. Actually, if Apple would simply allow a nice, somewhat universal interface with another flash drive (I'm thinking of those USB sticks we all use) that would go a long way toward full functionality.

And Mac Medic is right, first buyers pay a premium. I don't regret it. BTW, Mac Medic. That's a great animated graphic you have. How do you do that?

Apr 12, 2010 10:57 AM in response to StevePug2

And Mac Medic is right, first buyers pay a premium. I don't regret it. BTW, Mac Medic. That's a great animated graphic you have. How do you do that?


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Apr 12, 2010 1:02 PM in response to StevePug2

You may be right, and maybe I'm just having a hard time getting used to the idea of a "machine" that does some of the things I need to do but not all. I loved the iPad when I had it (returned at week's end) and, truth to tell, I'm thinking about buying again, having returner's remorse. I may have just been too quick to give up.

Apr 12, 2010 1:24 PM in response to TiffanyNicole

well I bought my Ipad last week and am very happy with it.
The WiFi Flys, sometimes I think faster than my macbook , which I also love, along with my Imac and Iphone.
Yes I am an Apple junkie, am am a 57 year young Grandma.
These Ipads are not intended to be a laptop, they are what you might call a GIANT Ipod touch, but better.
The only good a 3G one is , is if you are traveling down the road.
Most places nowadays have FREE Wifi, so I chose the 16gb wifi version
I have hundreds and hundreds of music on my 16gb, I have several full length movies, tons of apps and have used less than a third of the space.
Ask me if I would buy another? YES definitely

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Apr 12, 2010 2:28 PM in response to TiffanyNicole

TiffanyNicole wrote:
I know it's not going to be like a laptop but I am looking to use it for school (word processing and such) as well as entertainment and personal use!



I would caution you against expecting too much regarding word processing, spreadsheet or presentation abilities on the iPad. There is a pretty lengthy discussion of the issues here:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2387133&tstart=0

In addition, you can also find realistic reviews of iWork's capabilities from external sources such as this:
http://theappleblog.com/2010/04/09/in-depth-look-pages-on-the-ipad/

The crippled functionality of iPad's iWork may be sufficient for some, but it is likely to be *grossly inadequate for any college student*. I speak as someone who teaches at a college (and who loves most things that Apple makes).

It is a great device for entertainment purposes.

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Apr 12, 2010 2:35 PM in response to ns

how do you figure its inadequate for a college student? Are you talking about viewing files or making them? Because I have never been asked to do any crazy things with a presentation or word document. Im in my second year of law school too. I just dont see why a college student would need more functionality in a word processor that what notepad can do. For power points I havent done any crazy things, most are simple templates ive used. So since your a teacher I would like your view on this.

Apr 13, 2010 3:03 AM in response to cokeicee

cokeicee wrote:
how do you figure its inadequate for a college student? Are you talking about viewing files or making them? Because I have never been asked to do any crazy things with a presentation or word document. Im in my second year of law school too. *+_I just dont see why a college student would need more functionality in a word processor that what notepad can do_+*. For power points I havent done any crazy things, most are simple templates ive used. So since your a teacher I would like your view on this.



I am pretty surprised at this statement. College students prepare pretty complex documents, at least at my school.

As a law school student, I am sure you are familiar with endnotes and footnotes. iPad's Pages does not import those.

I think most students in most universities will, at the very least, have a need to read documents with endnotes/footnotes, tables, different fonts. Many others will need to read documents with equations, graphs, objects, figures, diagrams and tables of contents. Quite often these documents will be prepared in Word and downloaded or received by the student via email. iPad's iWork strips out most of the above items. If someone sends you a file and you open it in iPad, you are never quite sure of what all you have lost.

As for presentations, academics (students and professors) have more complex presentations than simple bullet points. Embedding pdfs, grouped objects, tables, presenter notes, etc. in a Keynote document (which many college students will have a need to use, even students in law school), then importing that document to iPad will result in the loss of all of said things. Even if you have simple presentation slides (just text and bullets), you won't be able to see your slides (or the presenter notes) on the iPad while presenting. Which means nervous students will keep looking at the projector screen with their backs to the audience.

For all these reasons there is a howl of protest from academics, in this forum and elsewhere. We make several presentations almost every workday, we read, receive and send quite a few documents each day. We had looked forward to using iPad to do some of those things. Mind you, we weren't necessarily thinking of preparing the documents and presentations on the iPad, only of reading existing iWork documents.

Yes, I think the iPad is a grossly inadequate device for reading documents and making presentations for most students in most colleges/universities. If it works for you, and if all you need is Notepad functionality in grad school documents, I am happy for you.

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Apr 13, 2010 9:14 PM in response to TiffanyNicole

Well, I finally decided to pre-order my Apple Ipad 64gb-3G! It's going to be used for entertainment mostly, some education applications to help me out in my chemistry and anatomy/phiso classes and some light note taking! Does anyone think that Apple will ever improve their word-processing and presentation Apps which would be more reasonable to use on the Ipad for eduacators and/or students? What are your thoughts??

Apr 14, 2010 4:28 AM in response to TiffanyNicole

Tiffany,

It is a great device for the uses that you have listed.

I have no doubt that in time (fairly soon) we will see a much better implementation of iWork or the iPad.

Once you get the Ipad, look into getting the GoodReader app. It is only 99c and it will significantly improve your iPad's abilities for reading pdf documents and for organizing, syncing etc.

Enjoy your iPad. It is a cool, addictive entertainment device.

Apr 14, 2010 7:51 PM in response to StevePug2

The iPad is sorely missing the mark at being considered a computer and as for who ever said not to listen to those that say its only a big iphone/ipod touch. i disagree. i am a fervent apple supporter and as much as i love nearly useless crap this one was just a big remake of the other idevises. read this article it explains plenty of missing features alsobringing to note that most people using a mac have some sort of JOB they need something to help them.

Jul 11, 2012 9:23 PM in response to Pier Rodelon

Thank you for your helful comments. After seriously searching for the right iPad,the only thing I have discovered is how limited it is. Compared to my basic Acer Netook and the expense of the iPad, the tablet seem extremely overpriced I use my netooks with my limited knowledge and abilities for emailing, chatting, shopping and research. I have never even tried the web cam and do not listen to music or watch movies because of the poor sound quality and I am afraid be no better on the ipad. I am an avid reader, and have the 3G Wi-Fi Kindle e-reader. It is Not in Color and has the external typing pad, which I prefer since I cannot text. It receives the AT&T signal from on the Kindle e-readers does not require any additonal monthly fees. But, it is a wonderful feature that requires no special set up and our local service area is tremendous and I have not been without the excellent fast and efficient serivce.t. Also, I believe the Kindle to be the best e-reader because of the spcecial technolgoly for reading. I had complications from cataract surgery and the Kindle was the most recommended for the easy of reading and not straining your eyes..


So, I have been trying to determine if there is any substantial advantage for me to justify the cost or reason to buy an iPadl? And I just learned yesterday you cannot print from them. I do not use or need a cameral and I believe that would just incur another monthly expense I do not need. But, I admit there so little I actually understand about the capabliites, features and usage. So it has been difficult for me to make an informed decision.


However, many of the concerns you expressed helped validate what I have been afraid of. This may be something I thought I woudl like to have since it is new to me but the more I have read the more I agree, it may be I just wanted a new electronic device. But you are so true that the iPad will not replace my netbook or e-reader. And if this is the case, what advantage would it be to me. The only thing I have considered would be for storing music. But, unless it has a decent qualiy sound system, it really dodx not appear to have any new redeeming fetures for my needs.


I appreciate your honesty and information. I think this is what I needed to hear so I can get over this and not waste my money. Actually it may be more advantageous for me to pay someone teach me how to use the features avaiable on my netook rather than buy another electronic gadget that I know nothing about or how to use. Your advice has been the best I have received, considering I am have not been convinced how it would actually benefit me. I am sure I type faster on my netook than I could ever learn to do on the touch pad screen. I have no particular reason for needing one in color. I do like the size and light wieght of the tabet But, that is no enough for spending so much from a product I may not use. My netbook does not have a CD Rom, which I have not missed and it only weighs 3.5 llbs. One negative is that gets very hot in the afternnon since I use it all day but I have a base I use that has two fans to prevent this. So the question is why would I need an iPad other than to have a nice electronic gadget with new technology I am unable to use or understand.


Again, thank you and I welcome all comments and suggetions since I am so tech illiterate and apprecciate all you tech savvy users whi have so much great information to share. You are the ones who have been so gracious in sharing your knowledge and allow me to be a more informed customer.


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Jul 14, 2012 8:59 PM in response to TiffanyNicole

Well, the more I read about the iPad verses the Netbook, the more certain I am there is no way the overpriced Apple iPad can compare to the Acer AspireOne 721-3574 Model. It will do everything and much more than I will ever need and it cost half the price of my Acer Netbook. I did buy the one with the 11.6" screen since it also has a standard size keyboard. It does not had a built-in CD Rom, which I have not needed in the two years I have owned this Netook. And you can purchase an extral CD Drive if you need it. And the netook is only 3.5 .lbs. I tried a Color Pandigitial Tablet and could not get use to typing on from the drop down screen that wanted to continually scroll back up before I could compete my typing and it was much slower than typing for me. And I have wireless printer for my netook and it it fabulous.


I was not trying to compare my netbook to the iPad for functablity nor did I think the iPad could subsitued for a computer. I also have large screen PC upstairs, I never use and a Toshiba 15" notebook; But, neither of these two computers are as fast and efficient as my netbook. Many of you have answered my concerns regarding just what and iPad actualy is. A glorifed media device. And enjoy my Kindle 3G/Wi-Fi Erader to much to use the iPad for reading. I think the Kindle is the best ereader and is so good on my eyes compared to many others I have seen. But, I do not use any of the other features since I find them too much trouble. But, I am an avid reader, and the Kindle is so easy to handle read and store books. I simply ran out of space to put another book in my home. That was the only reason I purchased the Kindle. But, now having had it over a year, I really appreciate it. My books are nice and organized. The 3G downloading is so fast and efficient and I enjoy reading more than one book at a time. Something I did not do when reading a physical book. And the lighted book cover is wonderful. I use it all the time.


So, I was not looking for anything to replace my netook or kindle. I just thought the iPad might be a nice little addtion to the erader and netbook. But, the more I read about all the extra applications and things it takes to make the Ipad half way functional and user-friendly, hardly seems worth $1,000+ In fact, the more I learn, the least I could justify the purchase. The sound is not worth watching a movie or listening to music. I have never even used my web cam so what would be the advantage of owning this new gadget that is so overpriced?


I have found it you hang around long enough, the users are very smart and you are the ones who know exactly what these devices will and will not do and I believe this discussion has let me know I actually cannot afford this nice looking iPad that can not really do much for me. But, I am happy for those of you who own them and are enjoying them. My Granddaughter loves hers and I think that is what got me to thinking I might enjoy one. But, technically speaking, they are not as technical as I thought they were.

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