printing multiple copies per page, not multiple pages per sheet

How can I print multiple copies of page per sheet of paper?

I've got an image or PDF that I'd like to print 4 or more of per sheet of paper. But it can easily fit on one sheet. When I choose to print 4 copies and in the Layout section choose 4 copies per page what I get is for pages printed out with the image scaled down to a quarter of a page.

What I'd like is the one image scaled down and printed 4 times on a single piece of paper.

Posted on Nov 20, 2005 2:12 PM

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Dec 29, 2005 9:32 AM in response to E.Moore

Hi Folks -

Although it is important to you, this is not something that is commonly done. Otherwise more programs would include the capability.

Not that you can't get it done, but the feature you are trying to use isn't designed to work that way. It's intended to print pages 1 thru 4 - or 4 separate pages - on a single sheet of paper. BTW- it has nothing to do with Apple. It is a function of the printer driver (furnished by the printer mfr) and the software you're printing with.

Specifics will vary depending on the program involved, but you essentially need X# of pages with the same content on each page. In PowerPoint, for example, you can just duplicate a slide 3 times & choose to print Handouts 4 slides per page.

HTH |:>)

Dec 29, 2005 5:46 PM in response to CyberTaz

I don't completely believe that this is completely due to the drivers from the printer manufacturer. After-all, you don't have to have a printer installed at all to make use of the print to PDF functions. Because of this I'm inclined to think this has to do with the printing/PDF-Quartz capabilities of the OS.

Obviously it wasn't designed to work this exact way or it would work this exact way.

You can say it's not commonly done and that would apply to anything other than printing off one full sized copy of any single page. Using Quartz filters isn't "commonly done" but it's available. I've seen plenty of Windows users do this when making directions to a party or what not. I find it a bit frustrating that you can't choose to have the page layout set before or after the number of copies is set.

Powerpoint/Keynote slides is a workaround but it's something that really should be in the print workflow.

Dec 30, 2005 10:44 AM in response to E.Moore

I don't completely believe that this is completely
due to the drivers from the printer manufacturer.


Nor did I say that it is. The software from which the doc is being printed is even more important re page layout options.

After-all, you don't have to have a printer installed
at all to make use of the print to PDF functions.


Actually, you do. In OS X the pdf driver is built in & without it you would need some other one. However, the term 'print to pdf' is a little misleading as it actually pertains to _saving a file_ to disk in pdf format. You still need a printer to get that file to paper or other stock, and that printer requires a driver of some sort.

Because of this I'm inclined to think this has to do
with the printing/PDF-Quartz capabilities of the OS.


You're entitled to think what you wish, but nothing in this statement pertains to page layout, which is what this whole issue revolves around. Quartz isn't even involved as it has to do with graphics rendering involving color, transparency & blending. Again, nothing to do with placement of content on a printed page.

Obviously it wasn't designed to work this exact way
or it would work this exact way.


I have no idea what this statement means.

You can say it's not commonly done and that would
apply to anything other than printing off one full
sized copy of any single page. Using Quartz filters
isn't "commonly done" but it's available.


Not true... mailing labels, multipage spreads, thumbnails, reductions/enlargements, ad infinitum are far more frequently done than printing the same content on the same sheet multiple times. As I said, however, there are provisions for doing so when the need arises.

I've seen
plenty of Windows users do this when making
directions to a party or what not.


I'm sure you have seen such results & I have done the exact same type of output hundreds of times on both Windows & Mac platforms as well as others... but not in the manner you are attempting to get it done. As you've found out, that just doesn't work.

I find it a bit
frustrating that you can't choose to have the page
layout set before or after the number of copies is
set.


In any program you typically do specify page layout before number of copies... in fact, that is the cruxt of the issue. But getting the same content to repeat on a single page is not a matter of page layout and is not a function of the print operation unless you're dealing with commercial devices.

Powerpoint/Keynote slides is a workaround but it's
something that really should be in the print workflow.


That was just one example. There are numerous others, but as I said, the choices vary depending on the application from which the document is being printed.

Good Luck & have a Happy New Year!

Regards |:>)

Jan 2, 2006 3:14 PM in response to CyberTaz

I don't completely believe that this is completely
due to the drivers from the printer manufacturer.


Nor did I say that it is. The software from which the doc is being printed is
even more important re page layout options.


Your statement of "It is a function of the printer driver..." is what led to that misunderstanding.

I completely agree that the idea of 'print to PDF' is misleading and that I was mislead that all the print dialog options (like the quartz filters that do work in outputting to PDF and the # of copies that do not) should apply to creating PDF files using the print dialogue. It now says 'save to PDF' in 10.4 instead of 'output' or 'print'. I think some of my confusion is carrying over from UI decisions in 10.3.

Obviously it wasn't designed to work this exact way
or it would work this exact way.


I have no idea what this statement means.


It's stating the obvious in reply to your statement of the obvious ("the feature you are trying to use isn't designed to work that way."). If it were designed to work in the manner that I was wanting it perform I would have never posted a question about it.

You can say it's not commonly done and that would
apply to anything other than printing off one full
sized copy of any single page. Using Quartz filters
isn't "commonly done" but it's available.


Not true... mailing labels, multipage spreads, thumbnails, reductions/
enlargements, ad infinitum are far more frequently done than printing
the same content on the same sheet multiple times. As I said, however,
there are provisions for doing so when the need arises.


You missed the point. Functionality is presented that is far less utilized than what I was desiring to do on this platform/set of applications as compared to other platforms/sets of applications. This is why I specifically mentioned the quartz filtering. I have personally met only one other person who uses quartz filtering yet I know over a dozen that want to print in the manner I originally posted about.

I'm sure you have seen such results & I have done
the exact same type of output hundreds of times on
both Windows & Mac platforms as well as others...
but not in the manner you are attempting to get it
done. As you've found out, that just doesn't work.


And I've seen it performed in the manner I was attempting, furthering the frustration.

In any program you typically do specify page layout
before number of copies... in fact, that is the cruxt of the
issue. But getting the same content to repeat on a single
page is not a matter of page layout and is not a function
of the print operation unless you're dealing with commercial
devices.


I guess I've just been spoiled by those big office Xerox machines. I never thought of that functionality being at all special in any way.

Thank you for the assistance.

PowerMac G4 Digital Audio, iBook G3 500, iPod, radioShark Mac OS X (10.4.3)

Jan 10, 2006 3:39 PM in response to E.Moore

My appologies...

I had completely forgotten about an old technique as I haven't used it in a number of years - it provides nowhere near the control I need in the print jobs I do. However, if you want to give it a spin, here it is.

In the Print dialog field for Page Range enter 1,1,1,1
Leave the #Pages @ 1
Set Pages per Sheet to 4

HTH |:>)

Jan 11, 2006 9:39 PM in response to E.Moore

Neither of those programs implement the feature in the Print dialog. It is apparently available only in the more sophisticated programs. In Word, InDesign, & others there is an additional field rather than just the Page [3] thru [5] type of option. You can also designate a more complex range such as [3,5,8-12,14,21-23] as a single print job.

Regards |:>)

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