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When my MacBook Pro i7 runs out of battery, it powers off.

I can't seem to figure out why my new macbook pro turns off when it runs out of battery. Typically, when macs run out of battery, they go into sleep mode. However mine skips this completely and just turns off. Any similar problems? any ideas?

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MacBook Pro 15 i7, Mac OS X (10.6.3)

Posted on Apr 28, 2010 10:37 PM

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Jun 4, 2010 7:52 PM in response to stevesw

I'm not sure if the problem is exclusive to i5/i7 MBPs. I'm using a late 2007 MPB 2.5GHz core duo 15in. As of the past two weeks I'm getting the same problem ...

- "Shut down" without writing to memory when battery reaches 0%; i.e. no pulsating light and machine is only revived by hitting power button.
- Problem 100% repeatable.
- Plugging in power and hitting power button effects a "double restart": first is silent (like a restore from memory), this is followed by full restart (with chime) a few seconds later.
- Anecdotally, machine seems to take an unusually long time to restart.

It's an old machine, but I am, however, using a newish (10 weeks old) battery ... my fourth for this machine. Health stands at 92% from 86 cycles.

I have a suspicion the problem started after a recent full calibration exercise. (I let the battery run out and then left it sleeping for a couple of hours before affixing power.) Kneejerk reaction is that the reserve was depleted and somehow hasn't recovered, so it can't sleep at 0%.

Jun 5, 2010 7:50 AM in response to stevesw

Regarding this issue specific to the current new line of MacBook Pro 15" i5/i7 only, I believe that Apple is acknowledging that there is an issue. They have asked for my log data twice and are looking for something specific. They did not tell me what it is but I think they are most likely working on a fix. They did acknowledge that there was an issue but did not give me any details.

Jun 11, 2010 11:28 AM in response to MarkZenzerItaly

Hi all,

I spoke with genius bar guys here in Italy and they confirm me that the direct safe sleep when battery is totally drained is normal (from what I understood I think it is normal for all machines with integrated batteries). What is not normal is that the computer fails to create properly formatted memory image. They told me that this could be due to a software, hard disk or battery problem. They checked the battery and all seems ok. So they suggested me to reinstall the system and now all works fine, no more sudden shut down. I also changed - using pmset - hibernatemode to 1, so every time that the computer sleeps it also shuts down. After 10 days and a lot of wakeups from safe sleep all seems to work fine. I don't know what will happen when the battery will no longer be at 100 % of its life.

Marco

Jun 11, 2010 10:09 PM in response to Machin63

Hi Marco,
I dont understand what you are saying, in your first paragraph you mention that Apple confirmed to you that the "direct safe sleep when battery is totally drained is normal" but then you go on to state that after you reinstalled the system you do not get any sudden shut downs. By "sudden shut down" do you mean "that the computer fails to create properly formatted memory image"?
Thanks

Jun 12, 2010 11:31 AM in response to MarkZenzerItaly

MarkZenzerItaly:

the answer is that if your machine goes directly to safe sleep when the battery is totally drained, correctly saves memory content to disk and after plugging in awakes from hibernation without losing any unsaved work it is ok. The guys at genius bar told me that this is the way these new machines work. I have owned other portable macs and this left me perplexed, but they assured that it is normal.

On the contrary, if your computer fails to save memory content to disk at safe sleep time and reboots without using the saved disk image, you could have a problem.

Since my computer sometimes lost the unsaved work, they checked my battery (which was ok) and suggested me to reinstall the system. They also asked me if I had changed the hard drive or upgraded RAM, because - in some cases - if the new hardware is not "Apple certified" it could cause problems during the safe sleep procedure.

I reinstalled the system and now all works fine.

Marco

Jun 18, 2010 11:52 AM in response to Machin63

Marco,

I would be cautious about what your are being told by the Genius Bar guys because Apple's documentation simply does not support what they are saying to you.

It is normal for contents of memory to be saved to the hard drive (SafeSleep) when the battery is drained to 0%. It is NOT normal that there are no battery reserves left after 0% to maintain the memory contents (pulsating sleep light).

Normal behavior is clearly published on Apple Support Docs regarding battery calibration as well as their own power management system in Mac OS X (type man pmset in your terminal). What we are all experiencing is NOT normal unless Apple decides to update its own documentation to single out this MacBook Pro model.

Trying draining the battery a few more times. I'm sure you will be getting at least one improper shutdown within a few cycles.

Jun 19, 2010 4:03 AM in response to ube

Hi,

I am a bit confused by all this calibrating and stuff.

I've done the calibration process many times and the battery charge is floating up an down.
When I am on battery for around an hour the full capacity index drops from 10400 down to 9400 and the energy management is telling me to service the battery (1 month old laptop and it does that from the second week on).
When I am back on power and the energy management states that the battery is 100% charged again the warning goes away and the full capacity index of the battery is back to around 10400.
Asking me this behavior is absolutely unacceptable for a 4k€ Laptop.

Just for Info: The initial charge is specified with 13000mAh

What bothers me is, that Apple is not officially reacting on all those battery issues and getting support on this seem a bit tuff anyways.

b.r.

Jul 19, 2010 9:45 PM in response to stevesw

Wow, this boat is getting full. I am also having the issue where my new 17" i7 MBP won't go into sleep when the battery is drained. It just seems to shut down.

I found this out tonight when I calibrated my battery for the first time and was surprised when it just shut down. Other threads have been started on this here and other forums so I'm really unsure what to do next since nothing seems to help the matter. A lot of people are getting new machines and it is still going on. Replacement parts are doing nothing for the most part as well. I really don't want to gen the run around if it isn't going to go anywhere ultimately, I have deadlines to meet and can't really be without my laptop. I'm extremely frustrated to have spent so much money and to have basic functionality like sleeping be messed up.

When my MacBook Pro i7 runs out of battery, it powers off.

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