Flashing question mark folder at startup

Cannot startup iMac 20 10.6.3 -all I get is a flashing question mark folder. Tried doing all the safe boots, switching the ram, starting from disc... Nothing seems to work.
And cannot reinstall operating system; all discs cannot be be seen.
Also cannot reset the ram... No chimes, either.
F@&k!!!
This is also a replacement mac and I'm on my 5th freeking iPhone, I've been a mac user my whole life... yes I grew up with the apple(still works). Now it seems these apples are rotten...seriously getting pisssed off!!!!!!

imac 2.4ghz 4gb ram, Mac OS X (10.6.3)

Posted on May 9, 2010 3:55 AM

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May 9, 2010 9:21 PM in response to Richdave

gotcha...
switched the ram and it booted up fine...went to the windows partition everything seems fine, then restarted...boom, same problem, flashing "?" tried switching the ram again, still nothing...
then i let it sit for a few hours, popped the install disc, still couldn't see any startup discs...
tried it again, magic! the start up discs were all there. did a full disc check, and no problems...
then went to restart. booted up fine, but once in os x, all programs were unresponsive, went to restart and boom...same f@%king flashing "?"

any ideas?

May 9, 2010 9:34 PM in response to temnoff

OK it seems your system is unstable... it may be faulty RAM.

I suggest you pull all RAM and then install 1 module only into a slot and test/boot and run at least a short while. Then do this for all modules into the SAME slot. If none boot, then try same procedure in next slot and so on till you have tested all modules in each slot.

You may want to mark the modules with a sharpie or similar to avoid confusion.

Make a list of what modules work in which slots. This will help determine if there is a faulty module (common fail across slots) or a faulty slot (common slot across modules).

Alternately, you can try booting the AHT (insert DVD reboot and hold "D" till icon appears) on one of your original DVD's and run the memory test there but it cannot distinguish between bad slot and bad module so you'd still need to swap and repeat to know.

May 11, 2010 12:14 AM in response to Richdave

After 12 times of trying to get the machine to read the disc to do a hardware check, it finally worked. No errors found, then enabled looping, found error on HD. This was the same problem 8 months ago(when i had warranty), but no apple service center could find the problem, and now that my warranty is out, apple basically told me "sorry" nothing we can do. awesome how i went through two imacs in less than two years!!!! way to go apple, your quality is no1!!!

May 11, 2010 6:26 PM in response to temnoff

If it is less than a year old then get Apple to fix it, easy!

Other option is to try to get a successful boot on the DVD and run disk util and check the HDD is SMART verified. Try repairing the disk too via utilities.

BTW - don't exclude RAM. I had a similar issue where I could not boot from the HDD and it crashes when booting from DVD to try a disk repair. It turned out to be a dud RAM module.

May 12, 2010 5:43 PM in response to temnoff

I would boot the AHT and run the extended memory test just to exclude RAM, then assuming no errors, you have to eliminate the HDD and cable as possible cause. IMO the cable is unlikely to be the cause but I never say never!

If you are comfortable with pulling your system apart then a new HDD is a quick and easy fix and places like iFixit.com have great guides available online for free.

May 15, 2010 5:57 PM in response to Richdave

it's the motherboard and HD...
15 month old imac that didn't quite last...oh wait, that's 2 imac in less than 2 years that didn't last... and not to mention i'm on my 5th replacement phone...
anyways, F@&k apple and mr jobs...to all those thinking about buying a mac, DON"T!!!!!!!!! SAVE YOUR MONEY!!! BUY SOMETHING CHEAPER AND SOMETHING THAT WILL LAST LONGER!!!!
MACS DO CRASH, AND THEY DO HAVE VIRUSES!! AND THEIR QUALITY IS ****!!!!
think of this...
bill gates trying to save the planet, steve jobs kicking in doors...who do you really want to support?

May 16, 2010 2:30 AM in response to Richdave

i didn't...i took it into an apple service center and they were the ones who determined this...
they told me that the are actually having a lot of problems with the imacs and pretty much everything else apple makes...funny how they couldn't find the problem when it was under warranty...oh well
time to fix and sell and buy a windows machine...30 year marriage to apple is over.
why stay loyal to brand if it isn't good anymore?
that's what i keep asking myself...

Jun 1, 2010 7:06 AM in response to temnoff

Oh dear,

I just spent my entire Memorial Day trying to fix my son's iMac. It TOO is EXACTLY at the 15 month mark in age. I can successfully boot it from a Super Duper back-up of MY Mac Book, but the iMac does NOT see the internal HD once it's booted from that backup. When I boot from a Leopard disk to use Disk Utilities from the CD, all I see is the DVD drive and a HD icon called "media" that cannot be viewed or repaired. I was considering to spend the time, money, and effort replacing the drive myself, but all this talk of memory and LOGIC BOARDS has me worried that it would be a waste.

I too am seeing lots of people having this same issue with this particular vintage/model. His first one died during set-up on Christmas Day. UGH!!

C

Jun 1, 2010 11:29 AM in response to temnoff

andrewtemnoff wrote:
they told me that the are actually having a lot of problems with the imacs and pretty much everything else apple makes…


It would be extraordinary if an +Apple service center+ saw many Apple products that did not have problems since their primary business is to fix the ones that do. But their seeing "a lot of problems" means little by itself since it may just be (& probably is) an expected result of Apple's booming sales.

This is not just idle conjecture on my part. At one time in my life I owned a shop that did a lot of regional warranty work for many major brands of home electronics. At one point we saw a dramatic increase in the number of several models coming into the shop from one manufacturer. Some of my techs concluded from this that these models had some design or manufacturing flaw & one even started telling friends & a few customers to stay away from the brand completely.

But when I did a little research I discovered a far simpler explanation: the largest seller in the region of the brand had made a large purchase of these models & promoted them heavily, resulting in many more in use than previously. Comparing sales figures to warranty return rates actually showed them to be substantially more problem free on the average than other models we saw in the same time period.

So take what employees at these places tell you with a certain amount of skepticism. They are most likely looking at only a part of the picture & it may mean a lot less than you might think.

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