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I moved country, changed iTunes stores and now my Apps can't be updated!?

Hi,

I know about how to change country etc for purchases in iTunes, this isn't about that.

I had a UK iTunes account and bought apps there.
I've now moved to Australia and changed my iTunes account to Australia using an Australian credit card, and I've bought some apps here.

iTunes is telling me that I have a bunch of Apps I can update, though when I go to update them it says there's none available.

I've gone to the UK iTunes Store and clicked update, and there they are - but they won't download as I need to change my billing info again.

So, here's the question - is iTunes actually that limited that one account can only have one credit card linked to it?

I live permanently in Australia now, but have purchased over 100 Apps while in the UK... am I right in saying that every time I want to update an app I have to fill out all my UK credit card and billing information, update, then fill in all my Australian billing details again when I want to switch back to the Australian store... over and over again for the rest of my life!?

I understand some Apps won't be available in one country VS the other, that's not the problem here. This is with worldwide available apps - I can see the apps in the Australian store, but because I've bought them in UK I can't update them in Australia.

MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.6.3)

Posted on May 27, 2010 8:09 PM

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Jan 19, 2013 10:53 PM in response to Subs_255

Subs_255 wrote:


Well guys, I called Apple iTunes' support. I asked them if the use of an american iTunes account in France was authorized without getting it terminated. And the person answered me that I could use any account of any country on any country like I want, it is not a reason to get it banned.


So if there are people there who saw their ID terminated, I only see two reasons : the first one is an error from Apple, which really is strange. The second one is that your iPhone were jailbroken and you was using cracked applications with Installous, which justifies (to my eyes) the termination of your accounts.


Have a nice day.

This seems like an odd answer from Apple Support, the Ts and Cs clearly state that you can only use the iTunes store within the geographic boundary.

"The iTunes Service is available to you only in the United States, its territories, and possessions. You agree not to use or attempt to use the iTunes Service from outside these locations. Apple may use technologies to verify your compliance."

"

TERMINATION

If you fail, or Apple suspects that you have failed, to comply with any of the provisions of this Agreement, Apple, at its sole discretion, without notice to you may: terminate this Agreement and/or your Account, and you will remain liable for all amounts due under your Account up to and including the date of termination; and/or (ii) terminate the license to the software; and/or (iii) preclude access to the iTunes Service (or any part thereof).

Apple reserves the right to modify, suspend, or discontinue the iTunes Service (or any part or content thereof) at any time with or without notice to you, and Apple will not be liable to you or to any third party should it exercise such rights."


Pretty clear, if you violate the Ts and Cs, Apple can terminate at their disgression.

Jan 30, 2013 11:08 AM in response to Steven Drew

I have the same Issue, now neither I can Purchase anything with my US Store Gift Certificate (a common walk arround to currrency exchange controls), so now I must decide to change of platform or Jailbreak and "Illegally" install the Apps I purchased on the US Store.


And about CopyRigths, most countries signed tens years ago, the URUGUAY ROUND, which means that copyrigths are recognized Universally, Also US Funds are common Universal Currency.


But this issue is crazy, If I own an App purchased at US Store and I'm aboard (on vacation or US Army assignation a.e.) and I need to Add Credits to an App to use some feature (as for skype or whatsaap), I Cant, no mather the same App is available on the current country store (where I cant sign because I dont have a local Credit Card)...



They are nuts, never traveled or served aboard, they allegations are pity, seems not much interest on the cross border Issue (also some may understand some xenophobia at all).



Also as DEVELOPER the Country isn't a common restrictions, 99% agree to universally distribute its content, so this policy must be enforced ONLY AGAINST THOSE CONTENT BANNED TO BE EXPORTED BY LAW OR COPYRIGTH, THE ORIGIN OF PAYMENT FUNDS MUST BE ALLOWED TO BE UNIVERSAL (AS PREVIOUS YEARS) IF NOT AFFECTED BY Credit Cards TOS, but GC funts must be universal.



Those policies (previously enforced too by Google's GooglePlay) where followed at eBay when Paypal customers / merchant where blocked on her countries, only aceptable block is to tangible goods delivered to different countries than the redident (or than the fund origin), but this is not an restriction to Goods paid with EFT or Check.



Those situation affect OUR PROPERTY RIGTH, AND NO AGREEMENT (TOS) IS OVER LAWS.



APPLE MUST PROVIDE A SOLUTION SOON, AS SOME UNIVERSAL STORE..

Feb 6, 2013 1:25 AM in response to Steven Drew

I'm having the same problems as many of the users here... I've already made my case to iTunes support to have a better system for travellers/expats, but until now no change. It seems weird that I can use my home country credit card for any purchase (online or otherwise) with other companies, with the only exception being on Apple iTunes and AppStore (re: expat). As of now I can't have any new app or renew my magazine subsription just because I don't have a local credit card (not intending to get one anyway), so now I'm moving to Amazon for my subscriptions.


Apple is a global company, please think of a global solution too for your customers.

Feb 14, 2013 9:57 PM in response to murilogh

Dear murilogh and other folks



My status : regular india store user now traveling / in United Arab

Emirates


Using an iPhone 5 and an ipad 2


All along I was on the India store


All was well till two three days ago


Since two three days I seem to have been thrown to the emirate store and all my updates are NOT happening


When I see an update notification on the iPhone apps app and I Click in that update red arrow notification the screen says this update is NOT valid for the emirate store !


I've logged into iTunes from safari browser and checked my country in the account home page and it says USA store !!


Yes I've double checked and taken a screen shot even


What should I do


I get notifications but can't update so my problem seems to be slightly different from many who have posted here


I get a message that's account is NOT valid for the United Arab Emirates ( called emirate ) store


Any help / pointers would be great fully appreciated



Regards

Feb 14, 2013 10:11 PM in response to From_subu

Hey,

Just delete the old apps u downloaded from other stores and download them again in the App Store u currently have access to. All apps purchased with ur account would be downloadable free of charge. Don't worry, just click the buy button, you will get this message"since u own a previous version of the app, this update will be free of charge" trust me, it won't charge u again(I had the same prob when I moved )

Feb 15, 2013 1:26 AM in response to 6invictus9

6invictus9


Thanks for the reply and taking time and effort


But NO I am not following that route and it is VERY dangerous because the app you bought in one store MAY not be available in another


App stores are NOT universal / common


Many apps are NOT available all over the world !!


It's one thing living without an update or two


It's a train wreck loosing half / quarter .... your apps


In fact one or two updates that I could NOT update already threaten me that the apps are NOT in my new ( forced into new ) store


App stores are NOT universal / common


Advance apologies if I sounded rash or critical


This is an open board so I'm just wanting others to know



Regards



Subu

Feb 15, 2013 1:47 AM in response to From_subu

No problem. Im just trying to help. Yes I understand that some apps might not be available in specific regions, but most of them are and you can delete and redownload those popular apps. According to apple support, you will not be charged.


If you are worried or unsure, you can look it up in the store first before deleting or I suggest you can simply sync ur apps to iTunes, that way you can reinstall from iTunes again later. No fear of losing any of ur apps then.


BTW app store account region can be changed by simply providing a credit card with billing address of that specific country.


Regards

Feb 18, 2013 3:09 PM in response to 6invictus9

6invictus9


Yes, you can redownload the app in new app store, but it is still under the previous apps store after you redownloaded them from new app store even if they are available in new app store. Meaning that you need to do manual download again and again when update avaiable, and you need to track ALL your apps updates by yourself FOREVER although they are avaiable in new app store, regardless of free or paid.


Regards

Feb 20, 2013 7:17 PM in response to Steven Drew

I'm having the same issue here, I changed the country of my account from New Zealand to Australia and now the apps in iTunes still keep showing app update notifications on the side, but when I click check for updates there is nothing there.


I have to manually change my account back to NZ, then update it all, then change back to Australia.


It's getting pretty annoying, and even though most of my apps are free I can't transfer it to the new store. If I download the same app in the Australia store, it will say I already purchased this previously. Which means you can't even re-purchase the app to get the notifications. You're never going to get update notifications for any apps you obtained before.


I hope Apple provides a better way around this, because this is simply ridiculous.


For example see here:

http://i.imgur.com/rRchOz1.png

Feb 21, 2013 9:08 AM in response to mklnz

mklnz wrote:


It's getting pretty annoying, and even though most of my apps are free I can't transfer it to the new store. If I download the same app in the Australia store, it will say I already purchased this previously. Which means you can't even re-purchase the app to get the notifications. You're never going to get update notifications for any apps you obtained before.


I hope Apple provides a better way around this, because this is simply ridiculous.


For example see here:

http://i.imgur.com/rRchOz1.png

Yep it's stupid, you can download again but still never receive notifications, and as you have bought it before, you cannot buy it again from the new store to receive notifications.


Also, has anyone else noticed the new iTunes update has stopped the trick of changing store and updating apps before you change you billing details? It is so lame. They state that you buy a licence, not the app, so they should refund the licence payment when you shift country so you can repurchase in the new country.


This is where digital distribution fails hard.

Feb 22, 2013 11:39 PM in response to ozdude

Q: Ozdude, and everybody else that are part of this thread, please kindly answer this. Are you certain that after I re-download all my apps again from the new country AppStore I moved to, I wont ever again receive any update notifications? That does not make any sense whatsoever and I please really need this question to be confirmed and spelled out in clear, since I am just about to change my country and have a significant amount of purchased apps I need.

I moved country, changed iTunes stores and now my Apps can't be updated!?

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