A different ? about iPod volume levels.

I posted this in iTunes disc. a while ago but I think it might b more appropriate here.

I use my 20gb iPod @ work. I have a boombox with an line in jack that I connect to the iPod through the headphones jack. This is the only way for me to get tunes while driving my company truck.

For a while I had to turn the volume on my iPod up to 85-95% (Appx % based on volume slider's position) i would also have to have the volume nearly maxxed out on the boombox just to be able to hear the songs at a descent volume. (I am in a truck, but even in relatively quiet environs, volume is remarkably low) The BBox's CD player & radio will crank up quite a bit, if not too much volume, but when the iPod is connected through the line in jack, its barely audible until I max everything out. The iListen FM transmitter for my car had this same issue. Although i didn't have to have the car's radio completely maxed out, I did have to have the iPods volume up past 90% to get a descent listening volume.

I have since discovered the "volume control" in iTunes (command I) and at first I adjusted some of the song volumes up about 35-50%. This helped but I still needed the boombox volume up almost to max. (My rechargable batteries werent lasting an entire shift at that volume!)

I have gone through and raised the song volumes in iTunes to about +75% or more. Now I can have the volume on the iPod @ roughly 60% and the boombox at a little more than half.

What I have noticed lately is that now, the volume control on my iPod is no longer doing anything to the volume past a certain point, (appx 55-60% on the slider position). This is the same with the boombox, the earphones or even the FM transmitter for my car radio, I don't begin to hear any music until the iPod's volume slider reaches about 40%, and after that the volume seems to max out at about 55-60% and doesn't go any higher. After I hit 60%, I can turn it up to full (on the iPod) without any apparant change in the volume levels.

Worse yet is the music sounds terrible using anything other than the boombox. The music's high end while using the FM transmitter is very staticy and buzzed. Using the earbuds, sound quality is fair below about 45% volume, but that's a little low for me.

I do have sound check enables in iTunes & the iPod and I have adjusted the volume on ALL the song files in iTunes using the "command I" (or get info) option.

I was wondering if there is a "fixed" upper limit on the volume in iTunes or the iPod, or is there possibly something wrong with the iPod? I have tried finding a post or link that i read here (in the discussions) that seemed to imply there was such a volume limit, but now I can't find it. It wasn't reffering to the iPod's with a limit on volume sold in Europe (I bought mine in the US anyway). This "link" seemed to be stating there was a limit on volume to preserve sound quality. (Yet it doesn't seem to have done that!!)

I didn't notice this "limiting" with the volume until after the last time I upped the volume from within iTunes. This is a little aggravating!! I would appreciate any insight!! Thanks!

Craig

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Posted on Nov 25, 2005 8:45 AM

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Nov 25, 2005 12:28 PM in response to Craig Thompson1

The sound quality issues you're experiencing are probably because the iPod's amplifier is maxed out and above a certain setting, the sound will just distort badly. The iPod is intended for personal audio, so connecting the headphone jack to a boombox probably won't give you good quality or high volume audio.

The audio output from the iPod's dock connector on the other hand is intended for line-out purposes. You should maybe invest in an iPod stereo connection cable that uses the dock connector. The dock connector's audio output is much more powerful than the headphone jack. I'd recommend removing your volume boost settings in iTunes too.

Nov 25, 2005 1:46 PM in response to Craig Thompson1

i use my ipod in my car (headphone jack of ipod plugged into aux of stereo)...i have the volume on my ipod turned up to 100% for best sound quality. I also used my ipod with my home stereo. I have a connector that goes from the bottom of the ipod to rca outs (that go into the stereo's aux input). for this i keep the ipod volume at around 80%. Both of these uses sounds great, so it is either something you have set differently on the ipod, the quality of the stereos inputs you are plugging it into, or a problem with your ipod...

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Nov 28, 2005 12:06 PM in response to Craig Thompson1

I'm not sure if listening to your iPod through the dock connector plug vs. the headphone jack is any different. I have a 40GB iPod Clickwheel. I use the Monster Cable's iCarPlay FM Transmitter in my car (which uses dock connector) and use Monster Cable's Apple iCable for iTunes at home for my stereo (plugs into 3.5mm headphone jack).

The only difference I notice between the 2 line-outs (headphone jack vs. dock connector) is that the dock connector automatically maxes out the volume out while the headphone jack requires you to max out the volume to get the same level output (unless you use the headphone jack on the dock). You can have the same effect as the dock connector volume level by plugging the iPod into its dock and plugging the 3.5mm jack Monster iCable into the dock's jack instead of the headphone jack and plugging the other RCA terminated ends into your stereo.

Anyway, I verified that there is no difference between plugging my iPod into the dock connector or the headphone jack with the volume maxxed by plugging it into each and comparing. The volume level was the same for both, so long as I maxed out the volume when plugging into the headphone jack.

However, I've noticed that there is a sound level difference between using external speakers and headphones. I can't believe that listening through headphones makes a difference to volume compared to listening through external speakers (i.e. car stereo, home stereo). I had songs I ripped from CD's from the 80's which had lower volume levels. CD's from today have much louder volume level than CD's from previous decades. Anyway, I've been compensating for the volume difference using Volume Adjustment in iTunes. To my surprise, Volume Adjustment in iTunes seemed to have fixed the sound level difference heard through external speakers, but the formerly low volume songs are now too loud through headphones.

Has anyone else had this crazy situation? How can volume level relative to "normal volume song" be different between headphones and external speakers? Does this make sense to anyone?

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Dec 8, 2005 6:57 PM in response to Taku Shimura

I've had the same problem with volume levels when my Ipod is attached to a stereo. It's especially bad when playing a mix of old and new songs, as you mentioned. A new(er) song will have a higher output, but then an older song will come on and be barely audible. So of course you turn up the volume and the next song is a newer one and the volume level is deafening.

The result is you're constantly fiddling with the volume, manually compensating for the changes from too loud to too soft, and it's a hassle.

I also tried compensating with the Itunes equalizer when compiling playlists, but it isn't perfect. Anyone have a better solution to this?

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