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iPhone 4 HD video recordings play upside when imported to my computer

When I import my hd video recordings to my computer, they play upside down.

http://vimeo.com/forums/topic:16572
Granted, the link above gave a couple solutions, which are to play the movies in quicktime and itunes, but I love using VLC. It even does this when using Windows Media Player. Also it was suggested to email the video to yourself, but that compresses the video, causing the quality to go down.

On top of all this, it even shows up upside down when I open it with Pinnacle to edit it. Sure, there's a video effect to rotate it, but once again, Pinnacle will compress the video when exported.

Is this being looked into? And is there a solution that doesn't require compressing it with a codec or playing it in quicktime/itunes? Like I said, I love using VLC.

iPhone 4, Windows 7, Ultimate x64

Posted on Jun 27, 2010 1:58 PM

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Oct 19, 2011 1:50 AM in response to g_man_iphone

I also recording video using the volume button and in windows it imports upside down. 😟


I am also having trouble with rotating it Windows Movie Maker because it won't save it back to 1080p for me. It always seems to drop the resolution down no matter what I try.


I wish I could upload 1080p straight from my iPhone 4S/iMovie to YouTube. It's annoying that I have to go back to using a PC to upload the video now. Also seems like a weird thing to leave out and would eliminate the upside down video issue for me. The Galaxy S2 can upload 1080p straight from the phone.

Oct 22, 2011 12:29 AM in response to Mulari

Wow you are a tool! Using Quicktime has been posted time and time again FYI... we ALL KNOW it works with Quicktime, and no the upside down video problem is not a Mac/ Windows not liking each other issue, if you read the threads... ALL videos are upside down in EVERY video program other than Quickitme... and just so I am clear about this, Windows does not make the VLC Player, RealMeadia Player, DivX Player or any other third party video player or editing software in which all videos appear upside down (software that is also supported by Macs).... so it is strictly an iPhone sofwater issue. Also using the Quicktime tool to rotate the vidoe is only for Quicktime PRO users, I personally will never buy that carp softawre again.


Thsese forums are totally useless unless Apple actually reads them and takes action or at least make the slightest effort to respond to any of them!! oh, and yes I am mad bro, so don't ask!

Oct 29, 2011 9:52 PM in response to g_man_iphone

This is the real killer - as g_man_iphone posts above.


Since you obviously want to hold the phone to take stills in the orientation which has the volume buttons uppermost and to the right (with the new iOS 5 capability), I assumed that was the correct orientation for video. Nothing doing!


Apple should provide something to guide the user in these circumstances. As it is, I have a whole bunch of upside-down video which is a pain to handle. Getting terrific quality HD video out of the phone is amazing, but if I then have to recompress it to get it the right way up, it's pointless!

Oct 30, 2011 1:12 AM in response to David Grigg1

I guess I never knew there was a problem until I read this thread. I've been using my iPhone 4 and 4S for video capture. Since updating to iOS5 I use them with the volume control buttons in the upper right and use the vol up button as the shutter. I then edit the video either in iMovie on the device or in Final Cut Pro X if I want more features. Absolutely no problems with upside down video at all. I haven't shared any of my footage that has been edited with iMovie on the device or in FCPX so I don't know if there is a problem with footage processed in those apps. Perhaps they 'rotate' the image during rendering...??


I do know that other video programs on my iMac--VLC, video conversion programs that display the video, etc., do not display the video correctly, i.e. as reported elsewhere in this tread it is shown upside down but with Quicktime/FCPX/iMovie I've never needed any of those third party programs. I am curious, though, so I'll probably get around to testing a iDevice iMovie render to see if it is 'up' side 'up' or still upside down on third party apps.


Ok, curiosity got the better of me. Clips rendered by iMovie on my iPhone 4 and 4S do have the images rotated so that the clip displays correctly on VLC (that's the only third party app I tested).


As to cause...I don't know anything about metadata in video clips, but I wonder if it isn't the same 'problem' that affects still images on iDevices since about version 3.13 of iOS. The iDevices with cameras do not rotate the image before saving, they set the EXIF field which tells third party apps how the image should be rotated so that 'up' is 'up'. Many apps still fail to honor this EXIF data field even though it has been around a long time. Perhaps video clips have the same or a similar metadata field and most third party programs do not honor it at this time--Just a thought.

Nov 14, 2011 2:16 PM in response to g_man_iphone

g_man_iphone, thanks for posting a photo - that is how I was using the video (upsidedown apparently)!


My iPhone 4S, IOS 5.0.1 video .mov plays in proper horizontal orintation in Quicktime as I shot it with +&- buttons in the top left.


When I import .mov into Final Cut Pro 6.0.6, it looks correct in Canvas until I Play or scrub it (then it shifts upside down).


Let me see if this fix/solution is correct:


I am supposed to shoot video with the camera upside down compared to how I take stills on the iPhone and how every other professional camera I've used over the past 25 years???


If I shot it as COMMONSENSE dictates, I need to Rotate it in FCP if I want to edit it.


I guess that is "Thinking Differently" - written while waiting 40 minutes for FCP to Render the rotation of my 3.4-minute clip on my 8-core (20GB ram) so I can edit it?


Sigh...

Nov 14, 2011 2:38 PM in response to -g

Add to that 40 minutes to render my 3.4-minute iPhone clip — another 17 minutes to Export a Self-Contained .mov so I don't risk losing my render file (and starting over).


Yikes...


PS:


5 minutes into that Export Compressor process, the 17-min progress bar has turned into another 30 minutes at 20%...


The iPhone 'geniuses' need to talk to the Final Cut Studio team, this is Ridiculous...

Jan 17, 2012 2:39 PM in response to agregoryy

Well I posted this back on Oct 13, 2011 and still today Jan 17, 2012, 3 months later I have NOT herad any feedback from Apple. It feels like I am dealing with just another idiot company that no longer cares about feedback and customer support. Perhaps this fortum is run by Napoleon Dynamite and his buddy Pedro. Gaaad... idiots!!


Apple if you are listening... (which I am sure you ARE NOT), Why don't you shove a fat non Flash-playing iPad with no SD media support or usb input up your *** and then tell me how that felt.

Mar 13, 2012 5:00 AM in response to g_man_iphone

Agreed man! What the **** were apple thinking - seriously and then you're stuck in their quicktime jail to play back everything. I shot the best footage of my neighbour and his daughter very special - guess what? Upside down. Apple a bunch of life wasters! Better things to do than work out this crap! is Anddroid a swear word on this site. Can't rotate in iTunes. Hopefully PC will have a solution - maybe adobe premier can rotate. hmmm.

Mar 27, 2012 9:46 AM in response to agregoryy

We did the same thing and accidentally filmed with the iphone4 upside down, once the movies were transferred to our pc they played upside down (unless played with quicktime as stated above)


To fix the problem on a pc open 'Windows Live Movie Player' Add video then click the 'rotate right' or 'rotate left' option in the tool bar twice to bring the orientation of your video the right way up, then simply click 'save movie' and 'for computer'


Hope this helps those of you with a windows pc.

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