Personal Cloud for Photo Storage and Remote Access

Hey All,

This is a tricky question to find the right place to ask it but there are a lot of smart people here so I'll give it a go 😉

I keep having to increase the size of my MacBook hard drive because I fill it. The split seems to be 30% photos, 30% music, 30% movies. It strikes me that the majority of the data I cart around with my, I don't access frequently. However, I do want to be able to access it at will.

So, I'm considering the potential of making my own cloud storage solution. I'd like to put my iPhoto library on my home network and access it on-site via a local mount. When I'm away from home I'd like to be able to have some form of web interface to the photos.

As a server, I'm considering an Acer Aspire Revo for its small form factor, cost and quietness. It may also perform some media centre duties in the future (topic for another forum).

So, does anyone have any suggestions for my options if I head this direction?

Many thanks,

Dave

MacBook, Mac OS X (10.6.2)

Posted on Jul 9, 2010 3:36 PM

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Jul 10, 2010 8:56 AM in response to GlasgowDave

Owch, this is disappointing news. I'd read about other people who had (seemingly) successfully shared their iphoto library on their home network either hosted on their computer or a nas. Sharing always seemed dangerous to me given the way iLife apps rely on accessing their database. Since I simply wanted single user access to a library stored on some form of network storage I thought this would be easier. Are there other solutions?


Yes sharing on a drive formatted Mac OS extended (journaled) - see this thread for more discussion - http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=11864941


1 - the iPhoto library must reside on a drive formatted Mac OS extended (journaled) for proper operation





For the remote option, Smugmug, whilst nice, is 60 bucks a year if I want to store my photos and movies. It'd take an age to upload the 15,000 photos. I'd be better off setting up my own webserver. Cheaper too.


That is fine - sharing photos is different that operating your iPhoto library on an internet connection which you originally ask about

LN

Jul 10, 2010 9:14 AM in response to LarryHN

LarryHN wrote:
Are there other solutions?


Yes sharing on a drive formatted Mac OS extended (journaled) - see this thread for more discussion - http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=11864941


Yes, the only way seems to be the Mac OS extended formatted drive via ethernet (not wireless). I have to say that I'm disappointed that I can connect to a wide range of devices and computers wirelessly and browse media on them but that, when it comes to photo databases, wireless is not robust enough.

For the remote option, Smugmug, whilst nice, is 60 bucks a year if I want to store my photos and movies. It'd take an age to upload the 15,000 photos. I'd be better off setting up my own webserver. Cheaper too.


That is fine - sharing photos is different that operating your iPhoto library on an internet connection which you originally ask about


Sorry if my language wasn't clear on that. Yes, I would like to access the photos via the internet. I understand that the method offered by iPhoto is via the use of MobileMe which amounts to the same thing as SmugMug/Flickr, etc.

Thanks

Dave

Jul 10, 2010 2:55 AM in response to GlasgowDave

Owch, this is disappointing news. I'd read about other people who had (seemingly) successfully shared their iphoto library on their home network either hosted on their computer or a nas. Sharing always seemed dangerous to me given the way iLife apps rely on accessing their database. Since I simply wanted single user access to a library stored on some form of network storage I thought this would be easier. Are there other solutions?

For the remote option, Smugmug, whilst nice, is 60 bucks a year if I want to store my photos and movies. It'd take an age to upload the 15,000 photos. I'd be better off setting up my own webserver. Cheaper too.

Fingers crossed for more positive responses! =)

Dave

Jul 10, 2010 5:02 AM in response to GlasgowDave

I've been doing more research and, as has been pointed out, using a storage disk that is not Mac OS Extended (Journaled) format is known to cause problems.

Less related is the fact that iPhoto '09 is super slow over a network. '08 seems to be faster.

So, it looks like my photos will have to eat 75GB of my laptop hard drive. I'm refuse to have to tether myself to an external disk via a wire! =)

Next candidate for removal is my 47GB iTunes library. But that is the topic for another sub-forum...

If anyone has any useful suggestions to the iPhoto issue then please do contribute. Otherwise, as always, thanks for sharing your knowledge.

Dave

Jul 10, 2010 5:13 AM in response to GlasgowDave

I'd read about other people who had (seemingly) successfully shared their iphoto library on their home network either hosted on their computer


What you mean by 'share'.

If you want the other user to be able to see the pics, but not add to, change or alter your library, then enable Sharing in your iPhoto (Preferences -> Sharing), leave iPhoto running and use Fast User Switching to open the other account. In that account, enable 'Look For Shared Libraries'. Your Library will appear in the other source pane.

Any user can drag a pic from the Shared Library to their own in the iPhoto Window.

Remember iPhoto must be running in both accounts for this to work.

This will also work for folks on a network on different machines, on a wired or wireless connection.

If you want folks to be able to edit the Shared Library:

Attach an external to the Computer, set it to ignore permissions and then hold the option (or alt) key when launching iPhoto and use the resulting menu to point iPhoto at the Library on the external.

Now everyone has the same access to the Library.

Couple of caveats: A strong warning: If you're trying to edit the Library (that is, make albums, move photos around, keyword, make books or slideshows etc.) or edit individual photos in it via Wireless be very careful. Dropouts are a common fact of wireless networking, and should one occur while the app is writing to the database then your Library will be damaged. Simply, I would not do this with my Libraries.

And: only one person can access the Library at a time.

or a nas.


iPhoto needs to have the Library sitting on disk formatted Mac OS Extended (Journaled). Users with the Library sitting on disks otherwise formatted regularly report issues including, but not limited to, importing, saving edits and sharing the photos.

Remember: Averaged out of the cost of iLife you're working with a $16 app aimed squarely at a person with a Mac and a point and shoot camera. iPhoto is not a server app. You can get them but they start at about the $200 mark.

As to Web Sharing: Again, iPhoto has no capability in the area. But there have been efforts by third party developers: check out http://www.globs.org/articles.php?lng=en&pg=265 - though I note it hasn't been updated in a year or so. Other efforts seem to have ceased about v6 of iPhoto or earlier.

Regards

TD

Jul 10, 2010 8:58 AM in response to Yer_Man

If you could point me in the direction of more info on aperture via a network, that would be great. From what I had read, both Aperture and Lightroom used MySQL which, for whatever reason, was not suited to multiple users. That was cited as the reason for not providing network support. However, just to be clear, I don't want to share my Library as such. I only want to store it on a network drive to free up space on my laptop. The use of additional software to make the photos available remotely would be a very worthwhile addition but not something I'd expect the primary app to do.

Cheers

Dave

Jul 10, 2010 9:33 AM in response to GlasgowDave

You might consider one of the DAM (digital asset management) applications that do allow multi users with one set of "source" files. I use Media Expression as my primary DAM app and iPhoto for special projects like books, calendars, etc. You can find reviews and general discussions about them at The DAM Forum.

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TIP: For insurance against the iPhoto database corruption that many users have experienced I recommend making a backup copy of the Library6.iPhoto (iPhoto.Library for iPhoto 5 and earlier versions) database file and keep it current. If problems crop up where iPhoto suddenly can't see any photos or thinks there are no photos in the library, replacing the working Library6.iPhoto file with the backup will often get the library back. By keeping it current I mean backup after each import and/or any serious editing or work on books, slideshows, calendars, cards, etc. That insures that if a problem pops up and you do need to replace the database file, you'll retain all those efforts. It doesn't take long to make the backup and it's good insurance.
I've created an Automator workflow application (requires Tiger or later), iPhoto dB File Backup, that will copy the selected Library6.iPhoto file from your iPhoto Library folder to the Pictures folder, replacing any previous version of it. There are versions that are compatible with iPhoto 5, 6, 7 and 8 libraries and Tiger and Leopard. Just put the application in the Dock and click on it whenever you want to backup the dB file. iPhoto does not have to be closed to run the application, just idle. You can download it at Toad's Cellar. Be sure to read the Read Me pdf file.


NOTE: The new rebuild option in iPhoto 09 (v. 8.0.2), Rebuild the iPhoto Library Database from automatic backup" makes this tip obsolete.

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