10.12.6 to 10.13.6 becoming a nightmare on MacPro mid 2010 despite following instructions

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Steve Zavodny Author

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10.12.6 to 10.13.6 becoming a nightmare on MacPro mid 2010 despite following instructions

I put OSX 10.13.6 on an SSD with a firmware update, and IT WORKED!

Then I moved that SSD to another bay (native SATA) and it does NOT work.

I returned the SSD to the original bay and it does NOT work.

I tried to redo the update on that SSD from a 10.12.6 disk as before this way:

https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1970?locale=en_US

and got the message below, even tho the failing disk IS 10.13.6,

even tho I was on 10.12.6 the first time the upgrade succeeded,

Then I went to the app store and tried and got the next message below.

The "250" is APFS (Case-insensitive). This is the 10.13.6 that wont boot anymore.

The "240" is Mac OS Extended, 10.12.6 and I get the same message.

Dont know what to do now, and I dont know how to change the journaling

even when looking at disk utility. Any advice appreciated. Thanks

Mac Pro, macOS 10.12

Posted on Feb 26, 2019 11:35 AM

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Answer 1

BDAqua

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Feb 27, 2019 12:46 PM in response to Steve Zavodny

So, you're trying to Apply the 10.13.6 Combo update to 10.13.6?

If so that doesn't work anymore, it will only apply to 10.13.0 to 10.13.5, I think you'll have to install the full 10.13.6 Install.

https://itunes.apple.com/app/macos-high-sierra/id1246284741?mt=12

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BDAqua

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Feb 27, 2019 1:32 PM in response to Steve Zavodny

Hmmm, you're the first person I've ever heard of that could apply the combo update to an already 10.13.6 install!?

Did it have all the Security updates already on it?

I think you'll need to Reinstall...

1. Start up from macOS Recovery

To start up from macOS Recovery, turn on your Mac and immediately press and hold one of the following combinations on your keyboard. Command-R is generally recommended, especially if you never installed macOS Sierra 10.12.4 or later.

Command (⌘)-R

Install the latest macOS that was installed on your Mac.

Option-⌘-R

Upgrade to the latest macOS compatible with your Mac.

Shift-Option-⌘-R

Install the macOS that came with your Mac, or the closest version still available.

Release the keys when you see the Apple logo, a spinning globe, or a prompt for a firmware password. When you see the Utilities window, you've started up from macOS Recovery.

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Answer 3

BDAqua

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Feb 27, 2019 7:34 PM in response to Steve Zavodny

Hopefully not, but we're not sure what the problem is... the safest thing to do would be to get an external drive, install to the new external drive, boot holding alt key to select new external drive to boot from, use Setup assistant on 1st boot to gather all your data from the non booting internal drive.

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Answer 4

BDAqua

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Mar 1, 2019 2:33 PM in response to Steve Zavodny

All I can suspect right now with this info is some hardware problem.

Can you install 10.13.6 to an external HFS+ drive for a test?

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Answer 5

BDAqua

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Feb 26, 2019 7:59 PM in response to Steve Zavodny

Hi, you really don't want Case Sensitive, but...

Enable journaling

Go to Applications > Disk Utility.
Select the volume or drive on which journaling is to be enabled. If the volume is formatted with Mac OS Extended (Journaled), journaling is already active.
Select File menu option.
From the dropdown list, select Enable journaling.

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Steve Zavodny Author

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Feb 28, 2019 3:28 PM in response to BDAqua

yeah apfs+ for 10.13 up.

I DID get a successful reinstall 10.13.6 on my dead apfs+ volume.

It said get a security update, but that is taking 15 minutes so now

i'm worried something is going to go wrong.

I need 10.13 (metal graphics card) for new photoshop features.

Now, Do I dare go for 10.14 ? You suggested no.

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Steve Zavodny Author

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Feb 28, 2019 1:01 PM in response to BDAqua

Cant we install on a disk that is not running the OS?

i.e. start up running on vol. "A", and then tell it from there to go update Vol. "B"?

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Steve Zavodny Author

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Feb 27, 2019 12:29 PM in response to Steve Zavodny

Now I am stuck in a loop 22.

I'm on a 10.12.6 disk & I want to put 10.13.xx on a 10.13.6 APFS+ disk

which has 10.13.6 but wont work. EFI firmware must be in place

or it wouldn't be APFS+, right?

Using this to get to 10.13 from any disk

https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1970?locale=en_US

I am stuck here right at the start: I get message I need 10.13 (2d below).

Trying straight from the app store I get message 1st below.

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Answer 9

Steve Zavodny Author

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Feb 27, 2019 1:05 PM in response to BDAqua

I did apply the combo update and now it wont boot.

I was hoping to reapply it successfully. Obviously I had

to go to another disk, a 10.12.6 disk to try to do all that

stuff and was unsuccessful as described above.

Thanks

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Steve Zavodny Author

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Feb 27, 2019 3:27 PM in response to BDAqua

"Hmmm, you're the first person I've ever heard of that could apply the combo update to an already 10.13.6 install!?"

No i'm saying after the install and a failure to boot, I tired this install once again on this "dead" disk.

"I think you'll need to Reinstall..."

Will I lose all my desktop stuff?

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Answer 11

BDAqua

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Feb 28, 2019 4:39 PM in response to Steve Zavodny

Hmmm, the Security update has messed up a lot of people, my last security update took hours.

Well, once you get a Metal graphic card you can give 10.14 a try, but I don't see the hurry myself, I've gotten used to waiting until it's as finished as it's going to be... maybe 10.14.6 if & when it comes along?

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