SSD options for mid-2011 iMac

I'm hoping to give an old 2011 iMac a few more years of service with a memory and SSD upgrade. I added 2 new 8GB modules of RAM (went from 4 to 20GB RAM). So far so good.


I have a new Samsung 860 EVO SSD but am wondering what the best options are for installing it. From what I'm reading online, I don't necessarily have to do open heart surgery on my iMac's internals, but could set up the SSD externally with a USB or Firewire connection.


First of all, if I go the surgery route, what sort of adapter do I need for the SSD? Any other accessories needed for the install?


And secondly, would I be just as well off to use the SSD externally with a USB or Thunderbolt connection?


Any and all advice and shared experiences would be appreciated. Thanks.

Posted on Mar 4, 2019 4:32 AM

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Mar 5, 2019 3:51 AM in response to MrMegunticook

First, your 2011 iMac only has USB2 ports and regardless of what kind

of external drive you use, it will still be slower than the internal so I

would scratch that off the list right away.


Firewire 800, such as on your iMac will be faster that USB, but still would

limit the speed of any SSD to the equivalent of a 7200 RPM HDD, at best.


The only really viable option for a true performance gain with an external drive

would be via Thunderbolt. However, be aware of possible sticker shock as

Thunderbolt solutions for enclosures will be significantly higher than any

other solution. However, the benefit will be having SSD speed nearly equal

to that of having the drive installed internal, without any of the risk of opening

up the iMac.


One thing to note is that Thunderbolt 2 is backward compatible to the Thunderbolt

on your iMac, but will simply run at the speed available with your iMac.

Mar 4, 2019 6:40 AM in response to MrMegunticook

The Samsung drives tend to not play well with iMacs, I would strongly recommend using an OWC (www.macsales.com) SSD. They are pretty much a plugin and play option. Before installing the SSD, make a bootable clone of the HD using SuperDuper! and then after installing the new SSD, boot from the clone, format the SSD and restore from the clone and you should be in business.

Mar 5, 2019 8:42 PM in response to MrMegunticook

https://blog.macsales.com/10050-firmware-update-enables-6gbs-in-2011-imacs

"While iMac EFI Update 1.6 is described as including “fixes that improve performance and stability for Thunderbolt,” it would also seem that an unadvertised benefit is that it also unlocks the full 6Gb/s, SATA 3.0 capabilities of two of the internal drive bays."


Did you know that you have two internal drive bays? I suspect the secondary one was for the build-to-order option for a SSD/Fusion drive, and may be harder to access than the primary drive bay.

Mar 18, 2019 8:57 PM in response to Glen Doggett

Thanks for the tips everyone. I just installed one of the OWC kits with my son (budding 12 year old computer guru). First I cloned the HDD onto the SSD with a USB-SATA adapter cable, by using Macrium Reflect's cloning tool where you create a bootable USB flash drive, then boot into that and clone the drives. Seemed to work great.


I had Bootcamp set up on the HDD and now somehow I can't boot into Windows (get a blue screen saying I need to recover). It will boot into Mac just fine.


Is there a trick to restoring my bootcamp? The partition is on the disk, I just can't seem to boot into it. I have Winclone installed on the Mac, and a recent backup, but if I try to restore the winclone image it can't find the bootcamp partition to restore it to. If I look at the disk in disk utilities, it doesn't show the bootcamp partition.


Hmmm...I know it's there, I saw it after I cloned the disk. But Mac can't seem to see it.


Any solutions? Thanks.

Mar 19, 2019 4:18 AM in response to MrMegunticook

Bootcamp is problematic with cloning and requires special attention

and may already be too late. On older Macs, like any 2011, Bootcamp

creates some magical manipulations to get Windows to boot.


If you still have the original boot drive and it is intact, boot into macOS

with your adapter cable (it's going to be slow). Then use the latest version

of Winclone and clone the Bootcamp partition.


Then check out the procedure on the Winclone site to restore a Bootcamp

image to a new drive. BTW, you will need to start by making the now internal

SSD into a single macOS partition.


Otherwise, unfortunately, you may need to put the original HDD back in and start all

over and follow the Winclone procedures "precisely" to save and restore your

Bootcamp install.


Another option, depending on what is on the Bootcamp install, just start all

over and do a fresh Bootcamp install on the new drive.

Mar 19, 2019 5:07 AM in response to woodmeister50

Strange--you'd think when the HDD was cloned it would simply make an exact copy, sector by sector, onto the SSD, and the result would be identical. I guess it "ain't that simple."


There's no way I'm opening up that iMac again...I'm perfectly comfortable diving into any windows desktop but dealing with those cables (especially the ribbon one) was a nightmare. I'm afraid I'll mess it up (as it was I had to reopen everything once to reseat that ribbon cable).


I have the original HDD, I'll try cloning the Bootcamp partition from MacOS. I'll check out the Winclone site and see if they have a good step-by-step for this.


Thanks, I'll report back with results.



Mar 19, 2019 5:01 PM in response to MrMegunticook

When I plug the original HDD into one of the iMac's USB ports with the SATA-USB adapter, it doesn't show up as one of the startup options (just MacOS, Windows, and Recovery are available). If I boot into Mac, it shows up in Finder as "Remote Disc" with no contents and no info.


I used that adapter to plug the SSD into this machine and it worked fine. The HDD was working normally when I uninstalled it.


What might be the problem here?


Any way to boot into a flash drive of some kind and repair the bootcamp partition?



Mar 20, 2019 5:19 AM in response to HWTech

Got it...I ordered an external enclosure for the drive.


So once I boot into Mac with the old HDD, I can use Disk Utility to manage the SDD? Maybe I can just use Winclone to "restore to volume" on the SDD. Hope it's that easy. I'm referencing this: https://support.twocanoes.com/hc/en-us/articles/201170769-Move-Boot-Camp-to-a-replacement-drive.


Will report with results. Should have the enclosure in a couple of days.

Mar 22, 2019 5:45 PM in response to MrMegunticook

i thought you’d booted already and were having trouble with boot camp, did I misunderstand?


there are 2 possibilities if it isn’t booting. 1. Your clone is ineffective. At work our techs struggled to use a Linux based cloning tool to clone our Macs thinking they could clone tboth the Mac and BootCamp installation. They failed many times before getting it to work for the Mac let alone both. I recommend CCC and SuperDuper! For cloning the Mac. 2. Are you sure your enclosure can be used to boot the Mac?

Mar 22, 2019 7:14 PM in response to dwb

Turns out it kept booting to the internal SSD even when I chose the external HDD because they had identical identifiers. I downloaded a utility that changed the identifier on the HDD, and now I'm booted into that. I used disk utility to reformat the internal SSD, which is has a GUID partition map and is 1 single Mac OS Extended (Journaled) partition.


Now, according to Winclone, I should get Mac OS migrated over to the SSD first, make sure that's working right, then restore the bootcamp partition. But they don't really give any details on how to do that.


What's the best way to go about moving Mac OS over from the HDD to the SSD?


I'm thinking maybe I want to boot into recovery and then restore the HDD from the SSD? Or is there a better way?


Thanks.

Mar 23, 2019 12:16 PM in response to MrMegunticook

Well, made progress but another stumbling block has come up. I've got OSX running on the SSD, I've got an empty Bootcamp partition all ready to go on the SSD, and I've got the original HDD mounted via USB. But Winclone keeps failing to clone or image the HDD Bootcamp volume.


After reviewing the log, I found this:


2019-03-23 14:57:04.582935-0400  localhost com.twocanoes.WincloneHelper[829]: [c[ERROR] Failed to open NTFS file "/Users/Bennet/AppData/Local/Microsoft/Windows/UPPS/UPPS.bin": No such file or directory
 ++++
2019-03-23 14:57:04.815554-0400  localhost com.twocanoes.WincloneHelper[829]: [com.twocanoes.winclone:WincloneHelper] +++++ ERROR: Exiting with error code 46:
       NTFS-3G encountered an error (check errno).
 ++++
2019-03-23 14:57:05.146072-0400  localhost Winclone[753]: [com.twocanoes.winclone:Application] Helper tool error: There was an error while file imaging. Please check the volume and try again. Status:46

Do I have some bad sectors or something on the HDD? How do I check/repair? "First Aid" in Disk Utility is grayed out...


Alternative approaches to try here?

Mar 24, 2019 5:23 AM in response to HWTech

I ended up restoring from a Winclone image I created when I first installed Windows 10 back in 2015. That worked fine...although something about the update process seems odd. I ran Windows update repeatedly until it said everything was up to date, but when I installed an Adobe app it said the current version of the app was not compatible with my version of Windows, and did I want to upgrade Windows first.


I'll try checking the health of that original HDD, was thinking of using it for backups but not if it's going bad. Will be 8 years old this year.


This SSD migration process was a lot more time and trouble than I expected. I still don't understand why you can't simply clone the drive and do the swap, which was my original plan, but I guess Bootcamp really complicates things.


Thanks for all the help. I definitely learned more about MacOS and disk utility (I spend 90% of my time on Windows, but it's good to know MacOS).

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