yes i know, many people asked and many people said on the spot... oh wonder... you dont need to defrag.
but this is not about if its needed/not needed. this is about: is there actually a tool which can defrag APFS, like idefrag (which doesnt support APFS)? nothing else. (meaning please dont start to argue about its needed/not needed)
so if someone knows of a tool capable of defrag APFS please let me know.
thanks.
AK
i asked for one specific thing and nothing else as i wrote above. and whats your answer?
ah... right. and if thats an attack on you, sorry, but i wrote clearly: i only want to know one think nothing else... i didnt ask about SSD, google or other things, did i?
but just for you again:
my issue is that im looking for a program capable of defraging APFS.
the correct solution (1) would be to find a program which is capable of doing so.
what is so difficult to understand on it?
another correct solution (2): there is none, as far as known.
fine.
anyway, this thread can be closed. i will look elsewhere.
i asked for one specific thing and nothing else as i wrote above. and whats your answer?
ah... right. and if thats an attack on you, sorry, but i wrote clearly: i only want to know one think nothing else... i didnt ask about SSD, google or other things, did i?
but just for you again:
my issue is that im looking for a program capable of defraging APFS.
the correct solution (1) would be to find a program which is capable of doing so.
what is so difficult to understand on it?
another correct solution (2): there is none, as far as known.
fine.
anyway, this thread can be closed. i will look elsewhere.
i asked if theres a tool someone knows of or not, and
and now think about your answer. is it maybe possible that i ask this question on purpose (and probably have already knowledge about SSDs and those things...?) and that i (probably) dont mind if (as you assume) i level out an SSD drive by defragging it?
I asked a question and you go down the way i asked not to do, therefore thanks for your answer, but its kind of useless for my purpose.
The best way to defrag a HD is probably to erase the drive completely and restore from a clone or TM backup. Although you don't want to hear you're probably wasting your time.
If you are referring to an SSD, I wouldn't do it at all. You're definitely wearing down your drive for no reason.
These are public forums so our answers can be seen by less knowledgeable users throughout the world. If we were to recommend a tool a less knowledgeable user may use that recommendation inappropriately on their SSDs. If there is such a tool you can find it using Google or other search engine. This is not a tool review site but I'm sure you will find many reviews regarding defrag and SSD.
apfelkiwi wrote:
yes i know, many people asked and many people said on the spot... oh wonder... you dont need to defrag.
but this is not about if its needed/not needed. this is about: is there actually a tool which can defrag APFS, like idefrag (which doesnt support APFS)? nothing else. (meaning please dont start to argue about its needed/not needed)
so if someone knows of a tool capable of defrag APFS please let me know.
thanks.
AK
If you don't like or refuse to accept the answers here:
Google : defrag APFS
If you find one that works with APFS, then fine. Google for them to see if they are available. But they probably won't work with APFS.
APFS does it's own defragmenting, therefore is why it's not needed. However restoring from a clone or TM backup will do what you want.
it doesnt do what i want, therefore the question about it, and the APFS documentation is still not really as good as the HFS was as far as i saw.
however, this forum is still as helpful as it used to be, not to say not at all.
thanks glenn for your comment, i think i will stuck with my own things and good.
You sound like a poster who has an issue and you've figured out the solution, in this case do a defrag. So you came here seeking confirmation of your solution. When we did not confirm what you convinced yourself is the correct solution you attack the volunteers trying to help you.
Why don't you tell us what the real issue is and maybe we can suggest a solution other than defrag.
Microsoft NTFS filesystems get fragmented, and Apple HFS+ and APFS filesystems do not. What does get fragmented on macOS is the Disk Catalog which is an index of pointers to every filesystem object on that drive. This is what historically Disk Warrior has "defragmented" on HFS+ partitions, and still cannot perform on APFS drives until Alsoft releases an APFS capable version.
Assuming your drive is an SSD, you should do a little research on defragging SSDs.
what has that todo with my question? - my question is not about how SSDs work...
i know about SSD issues, thats not the issue, im looking for a tool capable of APFS...
It has everything to do with your question. If there is such a tool you can search the Internet. But before using such a tool you should learn about SSDs and what defragging does to them.
The best tool is wipe and restore, like I said. I wouldn't waste my time or money buying any other useless stuff that would probably do more to cause issues on your computer than help.
i used a while ago 2 apps for HFS, they have been helpful... so not everything is wasted money ;)
anyway, thanks for your comment!
Defrag tool Mojave / APFS
