mac mini life span

I purchased a Mac mini in 2018 got increased RAM to 8 GB and hard drive to 1TB.

I recently went to about this Mac and saw it was a late 2014. I did not know this when I ordered it.

So my question is after some period of time Apple stops updating older models. Did I just loose 4 yrs

from my computer? I ordered this computer as new from Apple since I wanted more RAM and hard drive.

The update to Mojave says the 2012 mini is not supported. I find this questionable on Apples part since the 2008 MacBook I purchased was late 2008 same with the MacBook pro. Now it seems Apple is selling 2014 computer in 2018 without disclosing the fact you are getting a 2014.

Any help or information on this topic would be helpful.

Mac mini, macOS 10.14

Posted on Jun 4, 2019 1:11 PM

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Posted on Jun 6, 2019 3:12 AM

You were not sold a five year old computer. That is not true and not what you got. You got a brand new, still in production computer that was designed in 2014. So your car analogy doesn’t hold. You weren’t sold old stock. The 2014 model Mac mini was in constant production from 2014 until the 2018 model came out.


You were not misled. You asked for a Mac mini. You were sold a new item, of the most current Mac mini Apple made and sold at the time you asked for one. Just as if you walked in and asked for a MacBook today - you would get a brand new item, but that model has not changed in design since mid-2017, and nobody knows when a new design of the MacBook may be released.

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Jun 6, 2019 3:12 AM in response to Smokey411

You were not sold a five year old computer. That is not true and not what you got. You got a brand new, still in production computer that was designed in 2014. So your car analogy doesn’t hold. You weren’t sold old stock. The 2014 model Mac mini was in constant production from 2014 until the 2018 model came out.


You were not misled. You asked for a Mac mini. You were sold a new item, of the most current Mac mini Apple made and sold at the time you asked for one. Just as if you walked in and asked for a MacBook today - you would get a brand new item, but that model has not changed in design since mid-2017, and nobody knows when a new design of the MacBook may be released.

Jun 6, 2019 8:04 AM in response to Smokey411

I would just like to add a few things:

  1. The Late 2014 Mac mini was introduced in October 2014 and was discontinued in October 2018. After which time the 2018 mini became available to the public. If you purchased your mini new from either the Apple online or brick-and-mortar store in 2018, but before October 2018, then you would have purchased a 2014 model. FWIW. I bought a new one in 2016 and it was a 2014 model ... not a 2016 model.
  2. Also FWIW, I have now owned a number of mini's, a Late 2009, a Mid 2011, a Late 2014, & now, a 2018 model. I still have all of them and all of them work perfectly since I originally got them. The 2009 is being used as a media server. Typical consumer electronics, in my experience, have a useable lifespan of 3-5 years. As you can see my 2009 & 2011 models have far exceeded that.
  3. As far as Apple providing support, both my 2014 & 2018 models are fully supported, the 2011 has now moved to the "Vintage" category, and my 2009 is now considered "Obsolete." Ref: Vintage and obsolete products - Apple Support. Please read this article carefully. You will note that Apple will provide service and parts for up to five years after the end of the production run. So, for your 2014 mini, as mentioned in item 1, that run ended in October 2018. Doing the math tells us that full support will end in October 2023 ... or potentially longer where required by law.

Jun 6, 2019 9:43 AM in response to Smokey411

“With Apple I was sold a computer in 2018 that the life span started in 2014.”


That is simply not true. That computer was not being used for 4 years. It was new production, never yet sold at retail, so by any legal or rational definition of a consumer new product you got a new Mac mini. Cars are defined by the model year, and each year is a new model year. Consumer technology is defined by the year of a product’s introduction, and that only changes when a new model is introduced, and not based on any particular passage of time.


This idea of a built in lifespan for electronics is in your head only. A device is useful as long as the owner finds it useful. Technological obsolescence does not mean “life span”, it merely means that the current state of art for hardware has advanced in time, relative to your device. And in terms of technological obsolescence, the 2014 Mac Mini was obsolete within months, as Intel introduced new CPU’s and new integrated graphics.


The 2018 Mac mini is already technologically obsolete as intel has already released their 9th generation i5 and i7 cpus this quarter.

Jun 5, 2019 5:39 PM in response to Smokey411

Yes, companies sell whatever is their current model until they release a new model. Apple stores stopped selling the 2014 model Mac mini the day the 2018 Mac mini arrived in stores. Until then, they sold the most current model of Mac mini Apple made, which was the 2014 model.


As is always the case, it is up to consumers to educate themselves about what they choose to buy and spend their money on. Numerous sites (macrumors, Macworld, Engadget, CNET, etc) could have readily provided you with the information about how long the Mac mini had been without any design updates - a simple web search was all that was needed.


The Apple Store employees also have no insider knowledge about what products Apple will update, or when they will update them. They sell what people come in asking for, based on the current model(s) Apple makes.

Jun 6, 2019 6:19 AM in response to Michael Black

Actually, the car analogy does fit. If I design a car in 2014 and make no changes to it for 5 years. All cars might be identical in design but when I buy the 2018 I have the same life span as the person who bought one in 2014 only mine started in 2018.

With Apple I was sold a computer in 2018 that the life span started in 2014. So instead of both computers having the same life span the later one has 4 yrs less. This should have been disclosed. I use the car analogy since if it is considered unacceptable behavior for a car salesman why would it be acceptable for Apple.


If I am going to pay Apple prices for a product it is only reasonable that I would want the full product lifespan. When I get one with an artificially built in lifespan I would expect to get the full lifespan for full price. Saying it is the newest on available at the time is just song and dance. So now I have paid full Apple price for a computer that most likely will not be updated in 3 more years. I could buy a new windows computer every 3 yrs and it would be about 3 of them for the Apple price.


When I bought a 2008 MacBook I got a 2008, when I bought a 2008 MacBook Pro guess what I got a 2008. Same holds true for my iPads and iPhones and at some point Apple stops updating them. I got what I paid for with them, I still use the MacBook (talking the white plastic one) but it was 2018 when they quit updating it. Good lifespan for the price. However if they were still selling them in 2017 and I bought one it would only been good for 1 yr. Yet I would pay the same price as if it was going to have the same life span. When in reality the life span started in 2008. This is why it should be disclosed, I am buying a 2014 regardless of what year I buy it since when the 2014 is no longer supported then the computer I purchased will no longer be supported. So it is a 2014 and only new because nobody was using it. Just like the car nobody driving the 2014 does not make it still new in 2018.


Jun 5, 2019 8:15 PM in response to stedman1

I go to the dealer to buy a new car. No changes to this car in 5 yrs.

I purchase the new car but they sale me on from 5 yrs ago as new.

Since the 2014 and the 2018 models are identical and both perform the same.

Both meets my needs and it is the newest model they had.

So why should that be a problem?

Now add designed to be obsolete in 10 yrs you lost 4 yrs of life.

Jun 7, 2019 7:33 AM in response to Smokey411

You purchased what you chose to purchase and you paid what it cost knowingly, so what does the price have to do with it, or its upgradeability? You knew the mini has limited upgrade options, just as ultra compact Windows machines have.


Your posts make it sound like you were completely uninformed about what you were buying, which if so, is entirely on you. Nobody made you buy your Mac mini. You made that decision and that choice. Information about the Mac mini you bought when you bought it was readily available in minutes from any web browser - Apple publishes the specs online, multiple sites offer reviews and detailed discussions of the hardware, capabilities and limitations of every Apple device, many sites would have also readily told you how long the Mac mini had gone without a design update (some even would have openly told you not to buy a device that was four years without being updated, and for which an update was rumored to be imminent).


All you had to do was take 5 minutes to research your proposed purchase before hand and you would have known exactly what you were buying or not buying as the case may be. And even after you purchased it, Apple has a 14 day unconditional return for full refund policy, so you could have even researched it after purchasing it, and changed your mind then and got 100% of your money back.

Jun 5, 2019 6:52 PM in response to Smokey411

I must say I am somewhat confused as to what part of the purchase of the Mac Mini has caused you to mistrust Apple.

You wanted a Mac Mini.

Apple had a Mac Mini that met your needs.

You purchased said Mac Mini.

Apple sold you the newest model of Mac Mini available at the time of purchase.

What could they have done for you to have “TRUST”?

Jun 7, 2019 7:01 AM in response to Michael Black

Here is what I know.

I purchased a new Apple product new in 2018. Apple is going to treat it as if I purchased it in 2014. Meaning updates will be treated as if it was purchased it in 2014. I may still be under my Apple care plan with a computer that is not supported for new updates. I also get to pay over twice what I would pay for a windows unit which I can upgrade over time if I choose. The Mac mini and iMac can not be upgraded after the purchase unless you get the 27" iMac.


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