Why is my PDF file so big?

I have a PowerPoint file that is 1.9 MB in size. When I made a PDF out of it in the print dialogue box, the PDF file size was 115MB. When the guy who sent me the original 1.9 MB document made a PDF out of it on his Mac, it was 477K in size. I asked him how he made it and he said, from PowerPoint go File –> Save As –> PDF. So I did that not knowing why there should be that much difference between making a PDF in the Print dialogue and the Save As dialogue. As it turned out there wasn't much of a difference as my file came out at 101.2MB. Why when I create a PDF on my relatively new Mac (6 months old), does it create a PDF file that is over 200 times the size of the one created on my friend's Mac using exactly the same file and process? Thank you!

MacBook Air 13", macOS 10.14

Posted on Jun 23, 2019 1:16 PM

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Jun 26, 2019 4:33 AM in response to Ian Chamandy1

I'm not 100% on why the two of you would be getting different sized files. I've got a couple of possible ideas. Examples of some of the ideas being possible setting differences. Like Sparkleberry (above) shows in their screenshot of Powerpoint's settings and changing the Print Quality. Other setting difference might be if there is a Quartz filter being applied to it (Dropdown Options for Quartz Filters Show up in some Save As Dialog Boxes). Side Note: I don't have Powerpoint so I can't check this myself, but if there is a Quartz filter option on the PowerPoint > Save As > Dialog box you could try selecting" Reduce File Size" before you save your file.


Another Idea I would have to ask if you've modified the PowerPoint file. Adding Images or the like. As it might be including those images in your PDF vs the Original Creators PDF and that could account for the flux in size. Though if you are just opening the Original then exporting it unmodified and this is happening then this idea is no good.


If your super interested in it, you could see if his or your computer are using different pdf processor, as they might have different compression methods, which effect the PDF Sizes. To do so open the PDF's in Preview and goto Tools (Found in the Menu Bar) > select Show Inspector. On the window that pops up goto General Info (The tab that looks like a Piece of Paper). There you should see the PDF Producer. My PDF Producer is: macOS Version 10.15 (Build ******) Quartz PDFContext.


Also as a side note you can reprocess the PDF's using a Quartz Filter if you wanted to reduce their file sizes. Though I get that this is extra work on your part, and I apologize for that. There are multiple ways to do this... One way is by opening the PDF in Preview (App). Then going to File (Menu Bar) > and selecting Save As... (Shows up when the [Option] modifier key on the keyboard is held down). On the dialog that appears Set "Format:" to "PDF" and the "Quartz Filter:" to "Reduce File Size" > Click Save. There you have it a PDF with a reduce file size. I do caution you to look at the PDF after reduction, as I've had some smaller details disappear in the compression. I think that it reduces all the images dpi's and possible flattens some vector image files. But again I'm not an expert and don't really know the magic behind it.


The last little bit is I will wish you the best in your journey to solve this, good luck!

Weston

Jun 23, 2019 7:47 PM in response to Ian Chamandy1

Two last thoughts:


Scan your Mac with MalwareBytes and see what is found.

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If nothing is found, then this seems to be a bug with the OS installation.


So, call Apple and request to speak to an Apple Rep over the phone. Share the screen with them so they can see first hand what is going on.


Also, ask the Apple Rep about setting up a Genius Bar Appointment at your local Apple Store.

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USA: 1(800)MY-APPLE



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Jun 24, 2019 8:01 AM in response to Ian Chamandy1

You don't state which version of Office you are using)

First thing to reduce your file size, within PPT Preferences within PowerPoint go to General, to Print, and reduce quality (see below)



(2) compress pictures within PPT (see below), save your PPT and export as PDF again



OR

3 Import your PPT to KeyNote, reduce within KeyNote and export


OR

4 Try converting the generated PDF using Adobe to OCR format


Jun 23, 2019 2:40 PM in response to Ian Chamandy1

Contact Links for Adobe or Microsoft:

  • Microsoft - Go To: Microsoft.com > Click: Contact Microsoft (on bottom of the screen) > Proceed from there as necessary.


  • Adobe - Go To: Adobe.com > Click: Support (on top-right of the home page)> Click: Contact Us > Proceed from there as necessary.

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In PowerPoint...

Try Exporting this as a PDF Document:

How are you creating this PDF document? Are you exporting this as an image? Or are you exporting this a PDF document? Try manually exporting this as a PDF document. To do so, Go To: File > Export... > File Format: > Select: PDF > Click: Export

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In System Preferences...

Try Creating a New User:

What happens when you create a new user? Does this still occur?

Jun 23, 2019 7:58 PM in response to Ian Chamandy1

Contacting Apple is a great idea, just be aware that if you call and you are beyond your warranty, there might be a charge for a service call. Getting an appointment at a Genius Bar may be difficult since they switched to focus on mainly hardware issues for the Genius Bar; your best bet may be to click on the contact support link in the upper right corner, answer the questions during the triage process, and wind up with a couple of options.

Jun 23, 2019 3:16 PM in response to BobTheFisherman

I don't mean to be dense but I am confused by your response. I didn't say anything about the Finder. When you make a PDF from the Save As... dialogue box or the Print dialogue box of an application such as PowerPoint, you don't have options. The only option is Save As PDF. As I understand it, the ability to make PDF files from the Save As... dialogue box and the Print dialogue box is resident in the Mac OS, which is Mojave in my case, not in Powerpoint or a PDF app.

Jun 23, 2019 4:20 PM in response to TheLittles

Thank you but I know the different was to make a PDF. My understanding is whether you create a PDF in the Save As.. dialogue box, the Print dialogue or the Export dialogue box, it is the same function within the Mac OS doing all 3 (mine is Mojave).


All of this is aside from my main issue: two people made a PDF the same way with the same document on two different Macs and one got a PDF file size of 477K and the other got a file size of over 100MB (over 200 times bigger). The only variable is the two computers. Mine creates the massive file. It is a new computer with the most recent OS so that can't be the problem.


What is happening on my computer that causes me to make a PDF that is 200 times the size of my friend's file, made EXACTLY the same way but on a different computer?

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