Multiple GPU's in a cheesegrater 5,1. I need help with PCIe port config


I'm running one of those 47lb. mac pro monstrosities from 2010 and I'm replacing my dual AMD5770's with a 1060Ti

The High Sierra10.13 drive is physically remove from this machine and I'm running Win7 off an SSD.

I also have an Nvidia GT120 OEM from a 2009 I gutted, which gets all it's power directly from the PCIe slot

The 1060 is not flashed to see the EFI boot screen (AFAIK)

Can I run the 1060 and the 120 together?

I would like to have the 120 for the EFI boot selection but I don't need it for anything else.

If I can use both of these should the 120 go in the 2nd x16 slot or the x4


So 120W for the 1060Ti (and mini6 to 8 pin cable)

50W for the GT120

the total for all PCIe slots should not exceed 300W

Just not entirely sure on the slots



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Posted on Aug 2, 2019 11:53 AM

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Aug 5, 2019 6:10 AM in response to JimmyCMPIT

Yes I think there is a good chance you will be able to run both the GT120 and the GTX1060i. Certainly power is not going to be a problem. The fact the GT120 does not need any cable power is why it is a popular choice to provide EFI options along side a newer card. Both are Nvidia so that simplifies matters.


As mentioned by Grant put the GT120 in a higher slot as it needs less throughput than your 1060i.

Aug 5, 2019 1:45 PM in response to JimmyCMPIT

the thread just ate my response.


this has been the most mind boggling install in my nearly two decades of IT.


So, 2010 Mac Pro 5,1 dual Xeon, 64GB RAM running Win 7 of SSD, Win 10 on HDD


Display1 is Samsung with a max resolution of 1920x1080

Display2 is Samsung 1200x1920 (portrait)

Display3 is Samsung 1920x1080

Display4 is Samsung 4:3, only using it with AMD5770 and NvidiaGT120 to see if there is any display whatsoever and Display4 never sees connection to Nvidia 1660 Ti


trial and error, 

Assume fails result in shutdown and cold restart.


1)

Nvidia 1660 Ti in PCIe 16x 1

Result: does not fit, it's butting against the chassis, it's like 1/2mm off but it wont sit level.


2)

Nvidia 1660 Ti in PCIe 16x 2

Result: fits, starts up, but no display what so ever


3) 

Nvidia 1660 Ti in PCIe 16x 2

AMD5770 in PCIe 16x 1

boot to Win7, install drivers, prompted to reboot.

Reboot.

No display on Nvidia 1660 Ti, but reboots and display on AMD5770


4)

shutdown

Nvidia 1660 Ti in PCIe 16x 2 

NvidiaGT120 in PCIe 16x 1

Result: BSOD at boot


Nvidia 1660 Ti in PCIe 16x 2

NvidiaGT120 in PCIe 4x RAID

Result: BSOD boot


Thinking; bad card? Fans are spinning but thats not a measure of working 


So now I'm thinking send back or check power? OS?


5)

AMD5770 in PCIe 16x 1

Boot to Windows 10

Install drivers

Shutdown,

install Nvidia 1660 Ti in PCIe 16x 2

reboot

Result: Now I'm seeing display from HDMI to HDMI, I connect the two DP to HDMI to the other two displays


6)

Boot to Windows 7

Nvidia 1660 Ti in PCIe 16x 2

AMD5770 in PCIe 16x 1

No display on Nvidia 1660 Ti

Install drivers

Shutdown, uninstall Nvidia 1660 Ti, restart

install Nvidia 1660 Ti in PCIe 16x 2

Shutdown, install Nvidia 1660 Ti into PCIe 16x 2

uninstall and reinstall driver

Result: Display working on Nvidia 1660 Ti


7) 

Shutdown

remove AMD5770 from PCIe 16x 1

boot to Win7

No display



...this goes on, and I'm still in Windows 7

At some point I uninstall the drivers and loose the display on Nvidia 1660 Ti again

I reinstall several times and nothing is happening on Nvidia 1660 Ti, high fans, no display, I think I tried a PRAM zap about 3x at this point

Windows Device Manager sees this is a MSI GeForce 1660Ti, but no display


GPU-Z utility sees the GPU as Generic, but does see it's an MSI device but erroneously reporting 1GB VRAM and is actually slower than AMD5770



did I blow up the card?


The next combo is something like:

try Win 10. Nvidia 1660 Ti is not having any issue, I screwed something up in Win 7

I notice Win 7 does complete boot but no display. I can hear the MS login chime, and the fans on the card are at full draw


disable Nvidia 1660 Ti from device manager, uninstall drivers from from device manger, reinstall driver, reboot and now I have display on Nvidia 1660 Ti


Windows Device Manager sees Nvidia 1660 Ti as correct, GPU-Z sees the card as correct as well; 6GB DDR6, 1536 Cuda cores, etc. running quiet as a church mouse.


the next thing I notice off of Nvidia 1660 Ti is after I arrange the displays and set the resolution


Nvidia 1660 Ti output config is as follows Display Port (DP) (Position 1), HDMI (POS 2), DP(...3), DP(...4)

Display1 is fuzzy, the cable is DP to HDMI from POS 1 on the GPU

Display2 is fine: cable is HDMI to HDMI (POS 2)

Display3 is fuzzy: cable is DP to HDMI (POS 3)



Swap cable from POS 1 to Display 2

Display 2 looks fine

Swap cable from POS 2 (HDMI to HDMI) to Display 3

Display 3 looks fine

Display 1 is blurred, no shimmery artifacts or anything, it just looks crappy.  I tried 60Hz., 59 Hz and 50Hz. No dice 


This becomes DP to HDMI cable musical chairs for a while and settles on Display 2 and 3 look fine, Display 1 needs to get dropped down from 1920x1080 to 1680x1050(?) and appears to work. 


I googled this, and it does appear to be an issue for many Nvidia users, the fix is sometimes waiting for new drivers but likely I will pick up two DP to DVI cables and try those


So with all that I'm putting all other troubleshooting on hold. I'm rendering surfaces in nearly reatime and for S&G's I ran Skyrim balls-to-the-wall and it did not stutter so I'll come back to this at some time soon, just not now.







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