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New iphone cannot see or restore backup from old iphone. No solution from Apple support.

I have an iphone SE running 12.4.1. I have the latest itunes on the mac. I can backup to itunes via usb (I dont use or have icloud) (encrypted of course). When I have my SE connected to itunes, I see my backups.


Now I am trying to setup my new iphone XS. This came with 12.1.x installed. So the "auto transfer" thing fails or course, and it says I have to manually setup the phone, then manually restore from backup.


The first hurdle is the error message saying it cant do anything with restore because find my iphone is on. 2 hours of googling and searching later I finally managed to switch off this feature on both phones. I'll never switch it on again and avoid this "bug" in the future.


So next step is to manually restore the SE backup to the XS. When I connect the XS to itunes via usb, it shows no backups, and the "restore backup" is greyed out. Above this is a "Restore iphone" which is not greyed out, but when I click on this the only option is to "restore" the XS to factory settings.


So I called apple support. I went round in circles for 5 hours straight. We reset the phone to factory settings and did the whole process again, which her watching every step. Same issue. Then I upgraded the XS to ios 13, something I didn't want to do. Same problem. Finally, we put the phone in rescue mode, and tried that route. Same issue.


So there seems to be a bug where a new iphone cannot restore any backups.


The support person had no more options. She escalated it to her manager, who also had no more ideas.


So I can now choose between:

  1. bining the XS, sticking with the SE (and for me the SE is a better phone as it fits in my pocket, has good battery life, and better wifi signal than the XS),
  2. Manually installing and configuring everything, which will take days as I have 13 email addresses, each with a different provider, about 20 accounts in google authenticator, and hundreds of critical apps.


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Posted on Sep 21, 2019 2:12 AM

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Posted on Sep 21, 2019 2:57 AM

Are you just connecting to iTunes or are you specifically starting from an erased iPhone and waiting for it to prompt you before connecting to iTunes?


Use iTunes to transfer data from your previous iOS device to your new iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch - Apple Support

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Sep 21, 2019 2:47 AM in response to sfromgi

The first situation was not a matter of not seeing backups, it's that iOS cannot restore from backups from a newer version of iOS than is currently installed, which is why originally your device running iOS 12.1.x could not restore from an iOS 12.4.1 backup.


That having been said, you should be able to see a local backup of your SE.


If you follow these instructions, do you see your SE backup(s)?


Locate backups of your iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch - Apple Support


Sep 21, 2019 2:54 AM in response to Dogcow-Moof

"iOS cannot restore from backups from a newer version of iOS than is currently installed"


Yes, this is why I was forced to update the XS to ios 13, as you cannot update to ios 12.4.x.


This did not solve the problem. the XS with ios 13 could not see my SE backups (with ios 12.4.1)


As I said, I "see" the backup listed if I connect the SE. If I connect the XS (with any ios version, including 13), It does not see, or allow me to restore, from any backup.


The Apple support person checked that the backup files were in their correct locations on the HD, which they were of course.


Obviously I am using the same apple ID with both phones. The XS was setup using that auto setup thing which scans an image and pulls in my apple settings form the SE. This part works at least, even if the update and restore doesnt.

New iphone cannot see or restore backup from old iphone. No solution from Apple support.

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